From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should we restore manually maintained ChangeLogs Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:17:06 -0500 Message-ID: References: <56DDD02A.20809@cs.ucla.edu> <83fuw2t2ue.fsf@gnu.org> <56DE0F6A.6010207@cs.ucla.edu> <83pov5rmt6.fsf@gnu.org> <56DFD78F.40205@cs.ucla.edu> <56E06093.7050509@cs.ucla.edu> <83twkfo7ij.fsf@gnu.org> <20160309181005.GF3948@acm.fritz.box> <87vb4vuu59.fsf@thinkpad.rath.org> <87pov3nrnm.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <83mvq6n7xs.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1r2mzuy.fsf@gnu.org> <8360wumxj4.fsf@gnu.org> <56E1A228.6040602@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457630262 8507 80.91.229.3 (10 Mar 2016 17:17:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 10 18:17:33 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ae4DC-00026S-UE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 18:17:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50042 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ae4DC-0005en-8Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:17:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44822) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ae4D3-0005Xj-OZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:17:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ae4Cy-0005qb-PB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:17:13 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:56745) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ae4Cy-0005qG-KF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:17:08 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0A+FgA731xV/0a6+M5cDoMChAKFVcMLBAICgTw9EAEBAQEBAQGBCkEFg10BAQMBViMFCws0EhQYDSSINwjPIwEBAQcBAQEBHos6hQUHhC0FjDCnD4FFI4M6XCCCeAEBAQ X-IPAS-Result: A0A+FgA731xV/0a6+M5cDoMChAKFVcMLBAICgTw9EAEBAQEBAQGBCkEFg10BAQMBViMFCws0EhQYDSSINwjPIwEBAQcBAQEBHos6hQUHhC0FjDCnD4FFI4M6XCCCeAEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,465,1427774400"; d="scan'208";a="195876324" Original-Received: from 206-248-186-70.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.186.70]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 10 Mar 2016 12:17:07 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9810460420; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:17:06 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <56E1A228.6040602@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:34:48 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201404 Archived-At: > I'm not a fan of 'git replace' for the same reason I'm not a fan of changing > history in general. Indeed, "git replace" is a lot more powerful than I'd like. I don't consider commit messages as being part of "what happened" but rather as a description of what happened (i.e. what historiographers write). So, I'm perfectly fine with "git replace" used on commit messages. [ IOW If it was for me, the computation of the SHA1 would not include the commit message. ] > I don't plan to use it and won't recommend it to others. However, if > allowing its usage is the price we need to pay for Eli's agreement > then I'm willing to pay that price. Is there some way to control its usage? Stefan