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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>
Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>, Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: master 9ade7ea: Fix Eldoc problem when loading on Emacs 26.3
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 18:16:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv5zav9g43.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a707docl.fsf@gmail.com> ("João Távora"'s message of "Fri, 10 Jul 2020 22:58:18 +0100")

>>>> Maybe come up with a better idea, or maybe, like Stefan suggests, don't
>>>> make it an alias at all, just deprecate it and keep using it instead of
>>>> eldoc-documentation-strategy when we find it to be bound.
>>> That sort of works, but it forces extensions that do want to
>>> "Package-Require" eldoc to remember to unbind
>>> eldoc-documentation-function if they are loaded on older Emacs versions,
>>> which is undesirable.

No.  If they're only written for the old API they set
`eldoc-documentation-function` and live in blissful ignorance of what
they miss.  If they're only written for the new API, they add-hook to
`eldoc-documentation-functions` and live in bliss.

And if they want to support both they do

    (if (boundp 'eldoc-documentation-functions)
        (add-hook 'eldoc-documentation-functions ...)
      (setq eldoc-documentation-function ...))

>> Maybe use a rule like:
>>
>>     (if (and (buffer-local-p 'eldoc-documentation-function)
>>              (not (buffer-local-p 'eldoc-documentation-functions)))
>>         <Use `eldoc-documentation-function`>
>>       <Use `eldoc-documentation-functions`>
>
> Sounds a bit complicated for me, especially since there's already a
> eldoc--supported-p which does similar heuristics.

But that's one of the other benefits.  It lets us distinguish in
`eldoc--supported-p` the case where `eldoc-documentation-strategy` was
set from the case where  `eldoc-documentation-function` was set.

> Wouldn't it break in some older Emacs version that loads the new Eldoc
> and has some global value in eldoc-documentation-functions (say,
> a spell-checking eldoc backend)?

The above `buffer-local-p` tests would be in eldoc.el, not in the client
packages, so I don't see what scenario you're worried about.
And of course the presence of a global value doesn't affect
`buffer-local-p` anyway, so ... I guess I must be missing something?


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-10 22:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20200710004934.18557.69586@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <20200710004936.2935520A27@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2020-07-10 16:09   ` master 9ade7ea: Fix Eldoc problem when loading on Emacs 26.3 Glenn Morris
2020-07-10 17:09     ` João Távora
2020-07-10 17:36       ` Noam Postavsky
2020-07-10 17:54         ` João Távora
2020-07-10 19:57           ` João Távora
2020-07-10 21:35             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-10 21:58               ` João Távora
2020-07-10 22:16                 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-07-10 22:41                   ` João Távora
2020-07-10 23:44                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-11  8:06                       ` João Távora

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