From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again: Use monospaced fonts less Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 12:25:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1F8F3522-1E6C-40A3-B61A-B9B84FC0AD18@gnu.org> <87blh9gthg.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuv1f2y9.fsf@gnus.org> <87o8l9f1dl.fsf@gnus.org> <83lfgc50gb.fsf@gnu.org> <875z7gflpl.fsf@gnus.org> <83imbf2xux.fsf@gnu.org> <87lfgbarkk.fsf@gnus.org> <83zh4q195b.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgah1mjz.fsf@gnus.org> <83r1q0zwlp.fsf@gnu.org> <837drszozo.fsf@gnu.org> <83lfg7y4ka.fsf@gnu.org> <83d01jy35d.fsf@gnu.org> <83a6wny1oh.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18804"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 15 18:29:30 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kT689-0004me-VE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 18:29:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58976 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kT689-00052i-1h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 12:29:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38176) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kT64C-0003SX-SR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 12:25:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:1288) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kT64A-0006DC-7W; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 12:25:23 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 024D4100824; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 12:25:18 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id A3EEA1001D2; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 12:25:16 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1602779116; bh=q19CArjqOGiW/vnlw4D2xMgmb5hhKMGCNmokb3ky0Rs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=lWd3Nf18rxiNLblhXp7jnGw70Y/HDwKvJerfx9xQTs2GEfaTn84AevcyYL5c17/WG vfjIrGWS3Yy+vM2U45Fn1IktRK4rrEPxQ9A+tC9GVHei9d7Sy5YVAkhYbOyJ7QTdPe cMsdegMs1BbMTE64F8NPmXeQJg4giOaMByW7IEkzguMaH4fZ6IfCx4kml6oMMCRttC ICn36B+Jms41080tK0b1CW70eeJRbib3Pv1/ZG38eU+zhKTdvURkMcOhFmXzXMVFL2 lr3H7aDIhKEDUBZx8SwhJfSxzagnORd4dgS8GC3PHMfMYbEV0XPxkMrz6fAe8pAjqL 2DS5vxElRFlMg== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [157.52.9.240]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7806812022D; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 12:25:16 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83a6wny1oh.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 15 Oct 2020 18:00:14 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/15 08:25:01 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257749 Archived-At: >> Or rather, yes that's what it would boil down to in the redisplay, but >> in terms of resulting behavior we'd have bugs whenever the property span >> gets split into several spans. > > If this is a danger, then this feature is not workable at all for > buffer text. That's why I was suggesting a representation where you don't put a property on the whole span but only at the beginning and at the end. Stefan