From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: ohwoeowho@gmail.com, bugs@gnu.support, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Feature branches review please (ivy hello)
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2020 09:55:24 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv5z6ifst5.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83imai8tkk.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 06 Nov 2020 16:10:19 +0200")
>> > I have seen previous discussion about it entering main Emacs.
>> > Question: Why not?
>> FWIW, here's my take on it: a package should be included in Emacs
>> if it's activated by default or if it's a library that's required by
>> many other packages.
> We didn't make such a decision, AFAIK,
Indeed, I only stated my opinion.
> and as a matter of fact, a large part of what comes today with Emacs
> doesn't pass this test.
Yup. And moving packages out of Emacs is extra work with very
little payback. There's theory and then there's practice ;-)
> A prerequisite for making such a decision would be to find a way of
> bundling ELPA packages into an Emacs tarball when preparing a
> release. We haven't yet found the way of doing that, although some
> discussions were held about what would that entail.
FWIW, there's an existing patch which does that. It's more a question
of making the decision and then managing the consequences.
> Personally, I think promoting the above concept before the decision
> was made is something to avoid, because it sends the wrong message.
What I wrote above is not any kind of decision. It's "my take on it".
And that's been my take on it for many years now, and it guides the way
I argue for or against inclusion of packages in Emacs and in GNU ELPA.
Stefan
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2020-11-04 16:12 ` Feature branches review please Ergus
2020-11-04 23:18 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-11-05 8:30 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-05 10:05 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-05 16:10 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-05 16:27 ` Manuel Uberti
2020-11-05 17:00 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-05 17:32 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-05 18:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-05 19:30 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-05 19:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-05 21:55 ` Adam Porter
2020-11-05 22:18 ` hyperscope Jean Louis
2020-11-06 18:18 ` hyperscope Eduardo Ochs
2020-11-06 19:18 ` hyperscope Jean Louis
2020-11-06 5:50 ` Feature branches review please Jean Louis
2020-11-05 20:39 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-05 21:09 ` Ergus
2020-11-05 21:19 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-05 21:36 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-05 21:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-05 22:00 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-05 22:36 ` Ergus
2020-11-06 8:42 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-05 21:33 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-05 21:46 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-11-05 22:24 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-05 22:48 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-06 9:19 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-06 10:51 ` Feature branches review please (ivy hello) Jean Louis
2020-11-06 11:17 ` Oleh Krehel
2020-11-06 11:42 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-06 11:49 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-11-06 12:01 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-06 21:12 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-11-06 11:57 ` Could ivy minibuffer stay where it is? Jean Louis
2020-11-06 15:20 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-11-06 15:36 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-06 21:17 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-11-07 12:51 ` Oleh Krehel
2020-11-07 17:23 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-08 11:21 ` Oleh Krehel
2020-11-08 12:51 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-06 13:56 ` Feature branches review please (ivy hello) Stefan Monnier
2020-11-06 14:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-06 14:55 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-11-06 15:24 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-06 12:07 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-06 14:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-06 14:41 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-06 19:23 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-06 21:09 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-15 20:12 ` Feature branches review please Juri Linkov
2020-11-15 22:32 ` Drew Adams
2020-11-06 10:31 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-06 10:55 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-05 17:22 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-05 13:25 ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-06 16:30 Feature branches review please (ivy hello) Drew Adams
2020-11-06 19:05 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-06 19:27 ` Drew Adams
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