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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: sbaugh@catern.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] Start opportunistic GC timer at startup
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2020 08:55:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv5z5gfjsr.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83pn3od70a.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 05 Dec 2020 09:52:37 +0200")

>> Maybe what I want to compare it against is the number of commands
>> during which the GC is run exactly once?  The idea is to filter out
>> those commands which are compute-intensive and hence run the GC
>> internally (for which an opportunistic GC is of no use anyway).
>
> What do you mean by "during which"?
> Is the time used by redisplay after a command included or isn't it?

I wish it were, but the measurement method I'm using (via
post-command-hook) doesn't do that, sadly.

> My point is that commands are separate from redisplay in Emacs, and
> there's a lot of GC that's unfortunately goes on as part of, or
> immediately after, a redisplay cycle in latest versions of Emacs.

Indeed (tho I don't understand why you say "or immediately after").

>> So I added:
>> 
>>     (defvar gc--opportunistic-single-gc-cmds 0)
>>     (let ((last-gcs nil))
>>       (add-hook 'pre-command-hook (lambda () (setq last-gcs gcs-done)))
>>       (add-hook 'post-command-hook
>>                 (lambda ()
>>                   (if (eq (1- gcs-done) last-gcs)
>>                       (setq gc--opportunistic-single-gc-cmds
>>                             (1+ gc--opportunistic-single-gc-cmds))))))
>> 
>> So far, this seems to indicate that it's working:
>> OT1H `gc--opportunistic-single-gc-cmds` stays much lower than
>> `gc--opportunistic-counter`, indicating that we seem to be able to avoid
>> GC in many cases, and OTOH `gc--opportunistic-counter` is much lower
>> than `gcs-done` indicating that we're not excessively increasing the
>> number of GCS.
>
> What is the effect on the memory footprint?

Haven't noticed any impact (and I don't expect it to have much impact
since, contrary to Andrea's ELisp package, I don't touch the normal
thresholds, so the GCs can only be more frequent).


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-05 13:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Message-ID: <jwv1rgtjhhy.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2020-11-18  0:20 ` Eager garbage collection Spencer Baugh
2020-11-18  0:20   ` [PATCH 1/3] Add gc-estimated-time variable Spencer Baugh
2020-11-18 17:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18  0:20   ` [PATCH 2/3] Add garbage-collect-maybe function Spencer Baugh
2020-11-18 17:49     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18  0:20   ` [PATCH 3/3] Start opportunistic GC timer at startup Spencer Baugh
2020-11-18 17:54     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18  3:45   ` Eager garbage collection Stefan Monnier
2020-11-18  4:05     ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-18  4:48       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-18  8:02   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-18 15:06     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18 15:30       ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-18 17:19         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18 17:26           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-18 18:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18 18:19               ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-18 15:19     ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-18 15:47       ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-18 16:52         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-18 17:12           ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-18 17:34           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18 18:00   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  5:07     ` Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22  5:08       ` [PATCH v2 1/3] Add gc-estimated-time variable Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22 18:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22 19:48           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-22  5:08       ` [PATCH v2 2/3] Add garbage-collect-maybe function Spencer Baugh
2020-11-22 18:14         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22  5:08       ` [PATCH v2 3/3] Start opportunistic GC timer at startup Spencer Baugh
2020-12-04 23:19         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-05  7:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-05 13:55             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-12-05 14:24               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-05 14:41                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-22 15:13       ` Eager garbage collection Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16  4:11 sbaugh
2020-11-16 15:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-16 16:34   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16 18:37     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-18 18:00     ` yyoncho
2020-11-18 18:16       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18 21:37         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-18 21:59           ` Stefan Monnier

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