From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#67005: 30.0.50; improve nadivce/comp/trampoline handling Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 11:27:29 -0500 Message-ID: References: <874jhv9921.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> <875y24zrt1.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> <87ttpmwuxi.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> <877cmct4a1.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> <87bkbmiwpf.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> <83fs0xhhqf.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="485"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , jschmidt4gnu@vodafonemail.de, 67005@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andrea Corallo Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 23 17:28:06 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r6CYf-000AV7-SD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 17:28:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r6CYa-0001AT-8g; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 11:28:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r6CYY-0001A5-84 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 11:27:58 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r6CYY-00065a-0D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 11:27:58 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r6CYb-0004YY-Ou for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 11:28:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 16:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67005 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 67005-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67005.170075686417481 (code B ref 67005); Thu, 23 Nov 2023 16:28:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 67005) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2023 16:27:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34851 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r6CYJ-0004Xs-IW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 11:27:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:61626) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r6CYH-0004Xa-51 for 67005@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 11:27:41 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 8E0D880781; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 11:27:31 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1700756850; bh=dMgh7vFjWU+x9q9K3T9BHnoa82hwaDnvyGuQnLBVRX4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=nRdrRCkVtgAw5Xjy8cwnWaeS3yAvMxkL5A8Gx05Z/C6FZ53IbdotsEUCeSaekk0Pw DdbHTNPZo8wvFWrgNggZ6Vv1RcigOL/O4ol8yHzki/uG0t83oDNyiHsEL/fvGcCBhU EbXJBHDBsdxJfMmomRhJAfWmjsym1l712wDHQIc9J3C61s7kkY3UXB1mMckkaqHvfG QmoaK9GPIjyOcebQ68Me/VuoHS8JaOVmpz2jPsprbTTp7B2GgDr8f7kOrZmk32AxP/ 6yORdtwjdxJXK78JJ/KJ3Og3ObkgaHXmlbgytJcrd7w+4imDeKmrBKA8DH6Wh9uDGF XUU+25i9tAwBA== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C640E80270; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 11:27:30 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from alfajor (modemcable005.21-80-70.mc.videotron.ca [70.80.21.5]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9D9541203FE; Thu, 23 Nov 2023 11:27:30 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Andrea Corallo's message of "Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:02:09 -0500") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:274816 Archived-At: >>> BTW, why is it a `defcustom` rather than a `defvar`? >>> Do we really expect "normal users" to change it? >> Yes, we do. I think they actually did already, maybe Andrea remembers >> which functions and why. > I remember as well they did it, but can't remember precisely the reason. > Actually I suspect it might have been before we had the trampoline > system up and running. ATM I can't picture any reason why a user would > like to use this customize other than improving a specific backtrack or > preventing a certain trampoline to be created, but indeed I might miss > something. Part of the question is also: would those users benefit from using Custom to set this var, instead of using a plain `add-to-list` or `setq`? Stefan