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Sun, 10 Dec 2023 11:28:28 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.200.104]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2A61F12022A; Sun, 10 Dec 2023 11:28:28 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83edfuwqai.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 10 Dec 2023 08:00:05 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs> List-Post: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:275933 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs/275933> > There's nothing wrong with having parameters and user options by the > same name that affect the same functionality, but indeed usually the > user option overrides the parameter, not the other way around. See, > for example, the cursor-type option and frame parameter. Usually the rule we follow is to obey the most specific setting. In your example, we obey the (potentially buffer-local) variable in preference to the frame-local parameter. In my patch the choice is between the global variable (I've never seen it set buffer-locally and I don't think the code would handle it "right" if set buffer-locally) and the buffer/operation-specific parameter. Also, contrary to the current situation where code let-binds the variable to "impose" its choice over that of the user (which is hard to undo/override), when code sets it via the new alist entry the user gets a chance to override this override via `display-buffer-alist`. The `display-buffer` action system is complex, but it is designed specifically so as to allow the user to stay in control. Stefan