From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: reading/writing binary data in structured form Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:38:03 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20080427.004457.142920613.wl@gnu.org> <20080427.090553.90066124.wl@gnu.org> <87lk2yhqlj.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1209393505 15516 80.91.229.12 (28 Apr 2008 14:38:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:38:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 28 16:39:01 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JqUVP-0006PD-BO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:38:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36586 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JqUUi-00009T-Ia for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:38:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JqUUe-000088-1x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:38:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JqUUc-00006k-31 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:38:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58051 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JqUUc-00006d-07 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:38:10 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182] helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JqUUX-00049M-Gd; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:38:05 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq0DAHN9FUjO+JghdGdsb2JhbACBU5AMASeYIg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,716,1199682000"; d="scan'208";a="19529511" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca (HELO smtp.teksavvy.com) ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 28 Apr 2008 10:38:03 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([206.248.152.33]) by smtp.teksavvy.com (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id ISO39003; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:38:03 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 073628008; Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:38:03 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 28 Apr 2008 06:23:28 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96061 Archived-At: >> >> Kim, is there a reason not to make bindat-pack and bindat-unpack >> >> autoloaded? >> >> > Only that I envisioned that people would explicitly require bindat >> > if they need the features it provides. >> >> Indeed. It doesn't seem to make much sense to autoload part of it. > Yes, but can it hurt? We could put comments there explaining the > reasons, in case at some point in the future doing so for the sake of > documentation search will not be necessary. It's not very satisfactory. Maybe we should simply mention the package in the lispref. >> Maybe we should begin by improving the C-h p answer. > I'm for it, but IMHO "C-h p" cannot be a precise tool, because it is > based on too small amount of info (a few keywords), whereas > apropos-documentation has much more to play with. I don't think it "cannot be a precise tool" much more than C-h i cannot be a precise tool. But I agree that it requires a non-trivial amount of work. It would be worthwhile, tho. Stefan