From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: inputting characters by hexadigit Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:19:39 -0400 Message-ID: References: <868ww3vydn.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87tzeokrku.fsf@jurta.org> <87tzeogih6.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <488020A4.4060601@harpegolden.net> <873am6rb8k.fsf@jurta.org> <87r69oqojm.fsf@jurta.org> <4886A7D0.8070007@harpegolden.net> <4886B2E4.4060804@harpegolden.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216840923 24779 80.91.229.12 (23 Jul 2008 19:22:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:22:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kenichi Handa , lekktu@gmail.com, tzz@lifelogs.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, miles@gnu.org To: David De La Harpe Golden Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 23 21:22:51 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLjuj-0006mr-L9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:22:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59060 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLjtm-0007NC-2H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:21:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLjtg-0007MO-RR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:21:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLjtU-0007LQ-41 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:21:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55717 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLjtT-0007LN-Vs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:21:00 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:17276 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLjt9-0006e2-Rt; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:20:40 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqEEAEAhh0hFxIYw/2dsb2JhbACBWrIegX0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,239,1215403200"; d="scan'208";a="24723903" Original-Received: from 69-196-134-48.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.134.48]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 23 Jul 2008 15:19:40 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E60217F1C; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:19:39 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <4886B2E4.4060804@harpegolden.net> (David De La Harpe Golden's message of "Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:26:12 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101324 Archived-At: >> I think sticking to digits is the best choice since it's the only one >> that guarantees there won't be any need to dance around with modifiers. > [Well, except for those accursed french laptop keyboards, where numbers > need shift and there's not even a numeric keypad.] Still no particular dancing: since the code has to be entered in hex (that's the whole point), they'll have to press shift, but they don't need to switch between pressed/unpressed to hit the preceding 8. So it's still pretty much optimal for those keyboards. Stefan