From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Frame size changes Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:06:50 -0400 Message-ID: References: <877i8qvq5k.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <48E5C4E5.9040400@swipnet.se> <873ajdtuhz.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <48E7191F.7060407@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1223132833 894 80.91.229.12 (4 Oct 2008 15:07:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 15:07:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 04 17:08:07 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Km8jm-0002Cc-9u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 17:08:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41362 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Km8ii-0000dq-MM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:07:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Km8ie-0000dK-4U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:06:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Km8ib-0000cU-Uk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:06:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44917 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Km8ib-0000cP-O8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:06:53 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]:22115 helo=ironport2-out.teksavvy.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Km8ib-0005sq-AJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:06:53 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqAEAL8i50jO+IH3/2dsb2JhbACBcbdWgWiBBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,361,1220241600"; d="scan'208";a="27976940" Original-Received: from 206-248-129-247.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([206.248.129.247]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 04 Oct 2008 11:06:51 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2DB0AB4100; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 11:06:51 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <48E7191F.7060407@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv=22?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?'s?= message of "Sat, 04 Oct 2008 09:19:59 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:104342 Archived-At: >>> I've tried many solutions but they all fail in some case or another.. >>> I think the only proper solution to this is to make Emacs read .emacs >>> before it maps the first frame. >> This would be a big incompatible change, and at this point in the >> release cycle we must exhaust all other workarounds before considering >> it. > Yes I know. I only mentioned it because I seem to recall some of those > Emacs variants out there doing this already (Aquaemacs perhaps?). Don't know about "out there" but the Emacs I use most of the time has exactly such a change. E.g. All the messages from the .emacs appear on stdout. But it's not quite right yet: "emacs -f gnus" still sees some resizing. Stefan