From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: message-mode is now default? Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:53:23 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247846802 4366 80.91.229.12 (17 Jul 2009 16:06:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:06:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: ams@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 17 18:06:35 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MRpxC-0007y4-MH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:06:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56596 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MRpmJ-000709-6Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:55:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MRpl1-0006uj-Jc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:53:59 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MRpkX-0006kf-4t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:53:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55430 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MRpkW-0006kE-MX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:53:28 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:54203) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MRpkS-0005fk-Pd; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:53:24 -0400 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (faina.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.26.177]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n6HFrN04005569; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:53:23 -0400 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 69B8D3A39C; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:53:23 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Alfred M. Szmidt's message of "Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:01:20 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3320=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112622 Archived-At: > Things that have now become broken because of this unannounced change, Actually, it was announced, tho maybe indirectly. > - any and all hooks and variable that one uses for mail are not > working anymore, since message-mode is not compatible with > mail-mode. Causing massive breakage for anyone using mail-mode. Please use M-x report-emacs-bug. > - message-mode does not use sendmail-function, causing once again > breakage for anyone who wraps their mail around it. Please use M-x report-emacs-bug. > message-mode is NOT backwards compatible with mail-mode, Again, M-x report-emacs-bug. > This is a huge change, No, it's definitely not. > and should be postponed for after the release, As others have pointed out, you're confused on this point. Stefan