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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com>
Cc: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, spedrosa@gmail.com,
	phil@hagelb.org
Subject: Re: Emacs Package Management
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:01:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv4oqj3e1y.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m34oqk2nkf.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> (Tom Tromey's message of "Wed,  30 Sep 2009 14:18:56 -0600")

Stefan> In order to move forward on this thing, here's what I'd like to
Stefan> have as a first step: the equivalent of `dpkg', i.e. an elisp
Stefan> package that can take a package (a tarball, most likely) and
Stefan> "install it", list the set of installed packages, uninstall
Stefan> a package.

> I was thinking more about integrating package.el and I remembered one
> problem.

> Right now, package.el byte-compiles at install time.  However, this
> yields incorrect results if the .elc format changes incompatibly, and
> the user upgrades Emacs.  I believe this has happened in the past.

We normally try to preserve forward compatibility, so old .elcs should
work fine.  IOW, the problem can only show up if the user byte-compiles
with the new Emacs and then uses the file with an older Emacs.
If that's the problem, then I wouldn't worry about it (after all, the
same happens already for the normal manual installation procedure or
external packages).

> We discussed a solution to this long ago: putting the .elc files into a
> shadow directory hierarchy.  Is this still a good idea?

If possible, I'd rather avoid the complexity.


        Stefan




  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-01  5:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-01 21:27 Emacs Package Management Stephen Eilert
2008-08-01 22:58 ` Tom Tromey
2008-08-01 23:14   ` Phil Hagelberg
2008-08-01 23:25     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-02  0:13       ` Tom Tromey
2008-08-03  1:33     ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-03 18:03       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-04 15:33         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-04 19:07           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-05  8:04             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-05 13:09               ` Stephen Eilert
2008-08-05 14:39                 ` Paul R
2008-08-06  3:35                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2009-09-16 22:36                   ` Stephen Eilert
2009-09-17  1:44                     ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-17 13:43                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-17 14:26                         ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-17 14:58                         ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-09-28 21:13                         ` Phil Hagelberg
2009-09-28 21:48                           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-09-28 21:54                           ` Chong Yidong
2009-09-28 22:30                             ` Phil Hagelberg
2009-09-29 11:31                             ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-29 19:18                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-29 19:41                                 ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-30  1:20                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-30  2:07                                     ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-30  4:39                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-30 20:18                                 ` Tom Tromey
2009-10-01  5:01                                   ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2008-08-02  1:58   ` Stephen Eilert
2008-08-02  3:36     ` Tom Tromey
2008-08-02 17:30     ` Richard M Stallman
2008-08-12  4:10   ` Thomas Lord
2009-09-12 22:38   ` Phil Hagelberg
2009-09-12 23:30     ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-09-13 16:40     ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-14  9:07       ` joakim
2009-09-14  9:26         ` David Kastrup
2009-09-15  7:16         ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-15  8:30           ` Miles Bader
2009-09-15 18:15             ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-15 18:58             ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-15 22:08               ` Miles Bader
2009-09-16 15:16               ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-16 18:41             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-17  1:05               ` Geoff Gole
2009-09-17 19:50                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-15 18:55       ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-17  6:37         ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-17  8:28           ` Tassilo Horn
2009-09-17  8:37             ` joakim
2009-09-17  8:48               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-09-17  9:31               ` Tassilo Horn
2009-09-17 10:43                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-09-17 11:50                 ` Rupert Swarbrick
2009-09-19  2:40                   ` Bob Rogers
2009-09-19 12:10                     ` Rupert Swarbrick
2009-09-17 14:24                 ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-17 19:22                   ` Tassilo Horn
2009-09-17 15:04                 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-09-17 13:46               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-17 14:21             ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-13 17:00     ` Eric Schulte
2008-08-02 14:46 ` Paul R

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