From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: AW: delete-selection-mode Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:46:53 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <201003130001.o2D01FFQ003489@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87vdd1yqe4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87eijjzrkd.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> <874okf8dep.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <7697A57B1AD9104F993CDF6A5B69430C0A70E50872@CORPMAIL08.corp.capgemini.com> <4BA0CDF9.40707@online.de> <76682E4761EA432EB929E5E199B0F92A@us.oracle.com> <87wrxb57e1.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87sk7z571u.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <81674B067AF84670A2EDDB0178E0C0CC@us.oracle.com> <877hpa68ys.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268859104 24236 80.91.229.12 (17 Mar 2010 20:51:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 17 21:51:38 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ns0DF-0006f8-Vq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:51:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48505 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ns0DF-00035K-HK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:51:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ns0BY-0001en-PK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:49:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37798 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ns0BX-0000xy-BC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:49:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ns08m-0000f2-84 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:46:57 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:61155 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ns08k-0000eh-Ie; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:46:54 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEABvdoEtFpZMX/2dsb2JhbACbCHS5I4R2BIsV X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.51,261,1267419600"; d="scan'208";a="58465490" Original-Received: from 69-165-147-23.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.165.147.23]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 17 Mar 2010 16:46:53 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 1E4E2660FC; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:46:53 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <877hpa68ys.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:31:39 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122108 Archived-At: > Since I already gave examples and explained, it is obvious that you > refuse to actually _listen_ to others in this "interesting discussion". I for one haven't seen any such example. The only "example" I've seen was: > You can set the mark, move somewhere else, type stuff there, and return > using C-x C-x, again typing stuff there, without destroying anything you > have written. But this lacks crucial info about transient-mark-mode: if you don't have transient-mark-mode enabled, the above example will not be affected by delsel or any of its siblings. OTOH if you do have t-m-m enabled, then you'll probably want to use C-u C-x C-x rather than C-x C-x and also use C-SPC C-SPC (so as not to activate the mark, to avoid spuriously highlighting the region while you're moving around), in which case again delsel will have no impact. Have you actually tried delete-selection-mode? I haven't tried delete-selection-mode itself, but I've used cua-selection-mode for a while, and other than very minor problems (due to subtle differences of behavior, specific to the cua-* code, which would clearly need to be ironed out before enabling such a feature), I was not bothered by it at all. I did not use its features very much either, to tell you the truth, but that's beside the point. Stefan