From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: C-x C-x (was: C-d deleting region considered harmful) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 00:09:47 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87eicrx1ls.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <4C94E03D.8090002@gmail.com> <87fwx699pc.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83tylmyclx.fsf@gnu.org> <4C961787.3090907@gmail.com> <878w2xsigj.fsf@gmail.com> <87zkvd5hwa.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1285020601 25808 80.91.229.12 (20 Sep 2010 22:10:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 22:10:01 +0000 (UTC) To: Emacs-Devel devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 21 00:09:59 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxoYh-0005wB-4E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 00:09:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59035 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OxoYg-0003Nb-Ei for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:09:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=56880 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OxoYa-0003LM-Ba for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:09:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxoYZ-0008DW-Ch for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:09:52 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:41663) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OxoYZ-0008DS-A4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:09:51 -0400 Original-Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (vpn-132-204-232-145.acd.umontreal.ca [132.204.232.145]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o8KM9m8s021537; Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:09:48 -0400 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 13EC06618D; Tue, 21 Sep 2010 00:09:47 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Chad Brown's message of "Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:34:47 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV3626=0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:130547 Archived-At: So, I think we agree that we should change the active-region deletion so it only happens for `delete' and not for C-d. Good. We're just waiting for someone to cobble up a corresponding patch. Now for the spinoff thread that keeps spinning off other ones: I'd be willing to decouple C-x C-x from "(re)activate the region", but then we need to find some other way to reactivate the region. Suggestions welcome. Of course there's C-u C-x C-x, but I don't find it very appealing (just like C-u C-x C-x doesn't sound too appealing to people who currently want to exchange-mark-and-point without activating the region). Stefan