From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Key-binding without minor mode! Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 14:46:31 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87mwa6crac.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87wq9ab5k8.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87sijyb43f.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1410461239 28901 80.91.229.3 (11 Sep 2014 18:47:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 18:47:19 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 11 20:47:12 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XS9Oh-0007ew-AL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:47:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40751 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XS9Og-0002Kf-WF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 14:47:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37692) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XS9OO-0002Hu-VI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 14:47:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XS9OH-00033K-GL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 14:46:52 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:56207) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XS9OH-00033F-9j for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 14:46:45 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XS9OG-0007Qj-1o for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:46:44 +0200 Original-Received: from 69-165-145-6.dsl.teksavvy.com ([69.165.145.6]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:46:44 +0200 Original-Received: from monnier by 69-165-145-6.dsl.teksavvy.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:46:44 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 69-165-145-6.dsl.teksavvy.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:fQB+MkXjA4T73u21vNAor05u9t4= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:99828 Archived-At: > But if the major-mode defines binds to [tab] then it will override the > minor mode. Indeed. It might be a bug in the major-mode, tho (which manifests for example under ttys where the TAB key sends a \t rather than a `tab'). > I think I have no choice but to handle tab explicitly. Is [tab] the only > key that works like this? No. What you're trying to do is inherently tricky/fiddly/unreliable because Emacs's key-binding infrastructure is not designed for that. You might want to report a bug asking for some feature that lets you do what you want (which I suspect is something like "let my command delegate to the next command bound to this key"). Stefan