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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Cc: rms@gnu.org
Subject: Re: One-click copyright assignments?
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 13:44:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv4lyywgb5.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CAEwkUWPzsaZ4Kmt7scoOotw1zk8du9=g3ALB2c8eNNtWjqvXCQ@mail.gmail.com

> This.  I'm also curious to know why is the process so bureaucratic as it is
> currently.  Maybe there's a legal issue or something.

The FSF is fairly cautious (not sure what's the best translation for
"frileux") in this respect, indeed.  But I agree that several parts
could be streamlined without having too much impact on the legal side:
- turn the initial form into a web-form.
- make it so the web-form doesn't send an email to assign@gnu.org
  (i.e. to Donald who's already busy enough) but should instead
  automatically return the appropriate PDF.  I understand that in some
  cases, a human might be needed, but we should be able to arrange for
  the web-form to cover 99% of the needs.

Just doing that would be a significant improvement I think.  The user
can then immediately get the PDF, and sign it without any delay.
It would still have the delay to receive the signed PDF, check it,
etc... which involves a human (Donald again, AFAIK), but: one step at
a time.

This said, this is an FSF-issue, not specific to Emacs, so it would be
better to discuss it elsewhere.


        Stefan


> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 8:08 AM, Clément Pit-Claudel <cpitclaudel@gmail.com>
> wrote:

>> Hey emacs-devel,
>> 
>> Why is the copyright assignment process for GNU software more complex than
>> other similar ones ?  I've contributed to various pieces of free software
>> in the past, and in most cases (except for Apache) the assignment process
>> was little more than a click of a button, possibly followed by an email.
>> For Emacs, on the other hand, one needs to send an email to emacs-devel to
>> get an off-list copy of a text-based form, then send the completed form to
>> assign@gnu, then wait for a PDF (which mentions a monetary transaction of
>> $1 that never actually happens), then electronically sign the form using
>> PGP (possibly with an entirely new PGP key), then email it back and wait
>> for confirmation.
>> 
>> Is there anything specific to Emacs that requires the process to be this
>> complicated?  For example, could the entire process not be automated?
>> Ideally new contributors would fill a web form on gnu.org/emacs, sign
>> with their mouse at the bottom of that form, and confirm their email adress
>> by clicking a link in an email.
>> 
>> The existing process could remain in place for e.g. company-wide
>> assignments, but for the common case of applying a patch to an ELPA
>> package, wouldn't this make things much nicer?  If this can't be done, then
>> could we at least automate the part that generates the PDF form, and the
>> part that checks the signature, so as to eliminate the copyright assignment
>> delay?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Clément.
>> 
>> 




  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-12 17:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-12 11:08 One-click copyright assignments? Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-03-12 17:07 ` Filipe Silva
2017-03-12 17:44   ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2017-03-12 17:56     ` Drew Adams
2017-03-12 19:26     ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-03-13  0:56       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-13 16:57     ` Richard Stallman
2017-03-13 17:28       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-14  3:22         ` Richard Stallman
2017-03-13 16:56   ` Richard Stallman

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