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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Paul Pogonyshev <pogonyshev@gmail.com>
Cc: 26073@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#26073: workaround
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 10:38:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv4lrppozo.fsf-monnier+bug#26073@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG7BpapW7+XUJMuBq2EfbuvYXTN7fP5Fk3geWyphQBJmehbngg@mail.gmail.com> (Paul Pogonyshev's message of "Mon, 20 Mar 2017 10:22:57 +0100")

retitle 26073 How should cl-symbol-macrolet interact with rebindings?
thanks

The problem here is indeed different from the one in bug#26068.
bug#26068 was clearly triggering a (known) bug in cl-symbol-macrolet.

Here it's triggering a (known) misfeature.  The source code has the
following comments about it:

             ;; CL's symbol-macrolet treats re-bindings as candidates for
             ;; expansion (turning the let into a letf if needed), contrary to
             ;; Common-Lisp where such re-bindings hide the symbol-macro.
and
            ;; FIXME: The behavior of CL made sense in a dynamically scoped
            ;; language, but for lexical scoping, Common-Lisp's behavior might
            ;; make more sense (and indeed, CL behaves like Common-Lisp w.r.t
            ;; lexical-let), so maybe we should adjust the behavior based on
            ;; the use of lexical-binding.

more concretely cl-symbol-macrolet implements the following semantics:

      (cl-symbol-macrolet ((x <e>))
        ... (let ((x <foo>)) ..x..))
    =>
        ... (cl-letf ((<e> <foo>)) ..<e>..)

whereas Common-Lisp's symbol-macrolet wants the following semantics instead:

    => ... (let ((x <foo>)) ..x..)

As mentioned in the comment, it probably makes sense to change
cl-symbol-macrolet in lexical-binding code to follow Common-Lisp's
semantics (tho we'd want to give access to the old semantics if the user
explicitly uses cl-letf).

Not sure what might break if we do that: the main user of
cl-symbol-macrolet outside of generator.el AFAIK is the with-slots of
eieio, so the question is whether some users of with-slots expect
a subsequent `let` binding to temporarily change the slot's value.
I just checked and it seems that no code in Emacs itself relies on this
behavior, so maybe it's "safe" to change it.


        Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-26 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-12 13:25 bug#26073: bug in generator function with nested dash anaphoric macros Paul Pogonyshev
2017-03-12 14:05 ` bug#26073: Simplified testcase Paul Pogonyshev
2017-03-19 19:31 ` bug#26073: workaround Paul Pogonyshev
2017-03-20  0:49   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-20  9:04     ` Paul Pogonyshev
2017-03-20  9:22       ` Paul Pogonyshev
2017-09-26 14:38         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2017-09-28 17:18           ` Paul Pogonyshev
2017-09-28 20:07             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-28 19:39           ` Philipp Stephani
2017-09-28 20:09             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-27 20:34             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-02-09  0:34               ` Noam Postavsky
2018-02-09  2:43                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-02-15  2:37                   ` Noam Postavsky
2017-03-20 13:25       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-20 14:20         ` Paul Pogonyshev

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