From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: historial question: the first commits (is the conversion screwed?) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 08:55:22 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87k1bcqcky.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="97467"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 17 14:56:11 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hyyFe-000PFM-VL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 14:56:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36200 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hyyFd-0001of-UB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 08:56:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46081) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1hyyF3-0001oL-49 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 08:55:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hyyF1-0003Vn-Jk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 08:55:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:61744) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hyyF1-0003Ve-Fp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 08:55:31 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id E78928118C; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 08:55:30 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C577C8104F; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 08:55:24 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1566046524; bh=jLsM7kMihgm5YW7zcEvQAdXA6dSQvqzdhvE7V6FRN7A=; h=From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=MP27AHa8NMlBDuP753R8eDo/UinEZ7t88yj0slfMyc1amuurF4gNTpHKt7c6TiGK9 zenC0ivyUFCATEsez8CV8QpIM+CUgc6NwsBX7oKN5LEEmWHyRvIOyfYFqctykzB7zb Z/j4EC5wCg35MaIo4UTXlL8yMFdiLl6I3nHxcuMPPwPP6QVj+FW25eQsPhH3Gfsbsq 1JekwIW5wDkCm+fN24/9EZ8YN5LGwoZJlE68XFE51vFtYa1nUYjynufnLtG05WzpZF HHTp72VwPTRbsU6vFWgyeWgPhU3+vYxzcn3HlMqfJ/lYepRxO49khHeeamC3T1sc94 KQ/IUJ9DciZrg== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [46.189.28.52]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 36F48120515; Sat, 17 Aug 2019 08:55:24 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87k1bcqcky.fsf@mat.ucm.es> (Uwe Brauer's message of "Sat, 17 Aug 2019 13:02:37 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 132.204.25.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:239412 Archived-At: > commit ff9c6df4b0766bef72f6b1f4c8fca65737d9ad6b > Author: Jim Blandy > Date: Sat Dec 14 16:58:10 1985 +0000 > > Initial revision AFAIK what you're seeing is the fact that Emacs's sources were not under RCS before 1985 (I believe the corresponding commit history is lost) and that there was no "email" recorded with users back in the RCS and CVS days, so the corresponding identifiers were mapped (somewhat manually) to the corresponding email address. The closest to the early commit history we have is https://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/emacs-history combined with the ChangeLog files. Stefan