From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10773: set-variable can't change values of user options Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 12:04:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87r4y4fik0.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <5w1uq3lv3z.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87sjijt2jv.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <64pqdm4mtn.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <878sd5pzam.fsf@gnus.org> <87sgbdojgx.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30426"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Glenn Morris , 10773@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 19 18:33:42 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kJfny-0007oO-LP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 18:33:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41804 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJfnx-0005d6-KQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 12:33:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52948) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJfNC-0003xC-PG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 12:06:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:36324) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJfNC-0008Ib-Ee for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 12:06:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kJfNC-0005xS-9F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 12:06:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 16:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10773 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed Original-Received: via spool by 10773-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10773.160053151122838 (code B ref 10773); Sat, 19 Sep 2020 16:06:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 10773) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Sep 2020 16:05:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47870 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kJfMN-0005wI-Ff for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 12:05:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:61583) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kJfMJ-0005vv-Ex for 10773@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 12:05:10 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 26A7B441212; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 12:05:02 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C2BC5441116; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 12:05:00 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1600531500; bh=UpF65x/kXtssqjgPMhNy7tplUzJ4YxYItEGhUyqveKs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Zt5/IzC3eg3/F2M4H5MkTDO27Z4kkYOnWLDH2ksLyEqjl9P96A4WUf4p1kZOdeVzm oYreXHt1zLhC/wkPApUbix5JgCZJzqkcV94ELDLNdzcguJRpSik2LhAzm8li+gqFYZ ZVfvMQM1DClSBksg+JccsmmNc+QFj0Ap0Ti+IsQuglCVXPARTQeBG2tNc0GG6v212X 3tE9PqHe0GfDXF7EQ4/0ALG5aVEBY+Z8sZueLRMcYdG1u3evwGaNxTnOUqhdy5Znnm zxLpkisqP4giQBP25/ws0BZJGeL0N5XbFdzlnKXMbOdoYwGnGqJ2MeDAGFH9ACdkOv nP95lIcCgsRlg== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.72.232.131]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9069212066F; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 12:05:00 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87sgbdojgx.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 19 Sep 2020 17:49:02 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:188405 Archived-At: >> Shouldn't we be using `defcustom` instead of hard-coding Custom's >> "internal" properties? > Yes. But I was worried that defcustom would be too heavy-handed here. I think if you're worried about the "cost" of `defcustom`, then we may as well stick to `defvar` (after all, it's not like it'll be very easy/convenient for the user to use the Custom UI to add a function on those hooks). Stefan