From: Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Screenshots, frame shots straight from Emacs
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2021 17:48:45 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv4kco4qmw.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87a6mgwz17.fsf@logand.com
>> -(require 'cl)
>> +(require 'cl-lib)
> What is the difference?
They provide the same features but under different names (i.e. the
above change should generally come with other changes to adjust to the
different names; they seemed to be missing from the patch).
E.g. `cl` provides `position` and `mapcar*` whereas `cl-lib` provides
`cl-position` and `cl-mapcar`. All the functions/macros/variables
exported by `cl-lib` use the `cl-` prefix.
[ Note that in Emacs≥24.3, `(require 'cl)` will require `cl-lib` under
the hood (and then re-export its functions under the old name), and
the reverse holds for Emacs<24.3 if you use the forward compatibility
`cl-lib` package from GNU ELPA. So loading `cl` may also sometimes
end up defining the `cl-<foo>` functions, and loading `cl-lib` may
also sometimes define the "not cl-<foo>" functions. ]
> Why is that needed?
Because `cl` is deprecated.
> Is it it backward compatible?
Featurewise, almost. But it does require code changes (mostly adding
`cl-` prefixes).
> There have been changes to working with cl package for some time, has
> the dust settled yet?
AFAIK the dust settled back when Emacs-24.3 was released with `cl-lib`.
`cl-lib` was slated to (slowly) replace `cl`. In the upcoming Emacs-28,
`cl` is officially deprecated (tho still fully supported). In some
future release the plan is to remove `cl` from Emacs itself, tho we
may then create a GNU ELPA package for it.
IOW, there's no hurry, but moving packages away from `cl` is
recommended (as is the conversion to use `lexical-binding`: all files
bundled with Emacs-28 use `lexical-binding`).
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-07-20 21:48 UTC|newest]
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2021-06-19 13:57 The convenient method to check/inspect/retrieve the definition/usage of any commands/symbols/operators used in elisp code Hongyi Zhao
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2021-06-19 15:40 ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-06-19 15:57 ` Omar Polo
2021-06-19 17:09 ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-06-23 7:48 ` Omar Polo
2021-06-23 8:56 ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-06-23 9:17 ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-06-23 9:31 ` Screenshots, frame shots straight from Emacs Jean Louis
2021-06-25 22:04 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-25 22:34 ` Jean Louis
2021-06-25 23:55 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-28 6:47 ` Jean Louis
2021-07-01 21:01 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-02 12:50 ` Jean Louis
2021-07-02 15:34 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-20 11:36 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-07-20 17:42 ` Leo Butler
2021-07-20 19:44 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-07-20 20:21 ` Leo Butler
2021-07-20 20:50 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-07-31 23:25 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-08-01 2:16 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-08-01 6:40 ` Tomas Hlavaty
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2021-08-01 7:42 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-08-02 13:57 ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-08-02 19:57 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-08-03 0:56 ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-08-01 2:59 ` Eduardo Ochs
2021-07-20 21:51 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-20 21:48 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [this message]
2021-07-21 19:17 ` Leo Butler
2021-07-21 20:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-21 21:44 ` cl-lib questions (was: Re: Screenshots, frame shots straight from Emacs) Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 21:59 ` cl-lib questions Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 22:09 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-22 8:37 ` Screenshots, frame shots straight from Emacs Tomas Hlavaty
2021-07-22 13:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-22 18:19 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-23 11:38 ` Jean Louis
2021-08-01 1:38 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-31 23:32 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-07-23 1:30 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-31 23:31 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-08-01 14:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-21 3:34 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 17:21 ` Leo Butler
2021-07-21 17:52 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-22 8:26 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-07-22 8:16 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-07-23 0:52 ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-07-23 1:35 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-23 1:55 ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-07-23 5:51 ` Jean Louis
2021-07-23 8:56 ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-07-23 10:28 ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-07-23 10:32 ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-07-23 11:04 ` Jean Louis
2021-07-23 11:41 ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-07-24 15:22 ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-07-23 9:16 ` Hongyi Zhao
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