From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: frame placement Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 15:16:22 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9709"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:rmE8PSNTWIUOeKsS7MYV7dMEJTg= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 30 21:17:08 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p0TW0-0002Ki-BD for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 21:17:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p0TVT-0007sP-Nw; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 15:16:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p0TVR-0007qI-O9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 15:16:33 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p0TVP-0007dD-Ty for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 15:16:33 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p0TVM-0001Uw-Qh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2022 21:16:28 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:141280 Archived-At: > A long running emacs (Xt toolkit) has now taken to positioning new > frames at 0x0 regardless of what the windowmanager wants. > xprop on the new frames show > > `` > WM_NORMAL_HINTS(WM_SIZE_HINTS): > user specified location: 0, 0 > user specified size: 838 by 750 > `` > > I'm wondering how this got set. there is nothing in the *-frame-list Do you mean things like `default-frame-alist`? > which is doing this, xrdb -query -all is blank I can't see anything in > via x-get-resource, I can create fresh frames with user-position > parameters but I want the default to go back to window manager > placement (like it does in a fresh emacs) > > Any clues would help. I'd try `M-x trace-function RET make-frame RET` or maybe `M-x trace-function RET x-create-frame RET` If the args passed to those functions "explain" the problem, then `M-x debug-on-entry RET x-create-frame RET` would be my next step (but make sure that bringing up the debugger doesn't need to create a new frame ;-) Stefan