From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>
Cc: Stefan Monnier via "Emacs development discussions."
<emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Declaring Lisp function types
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2024 09:52:23 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv4jdne65n.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yp1il231w23.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Andrea Corallo's message of "Sun, 03 Mar 2024 04:52:52 -0500")
>> so I see no semantic issue with using `ftype` or `type` here, unless
>> there are functions whose type could take another form than (function
>> <args> <rettype>)? Are you thinking of types like
>> (or (function (int) int) (function (float) float))?
>
> That's a good example why it would be good to be able to accept the type
> specifier as a declaration with no tricks.
Then I'd go with
(declare (type (function ..)))
This may be a bit more verbose, but it's simple and clear. And to the
extent that people are worried that it could become pervasive and even
mandatory, I think verbose is good.
> On the specific case I'm not sure we want to support this in the inner
> machinery (at least for now).
+1
>> More important I think is to document what such annotations mean and
>> what they should look like (currently, this is not super important,
>> because the annotations live together with the code that uses them, but
>> if we move them outside of `comp.el`, the "contract" needs to be made
>> more explicit).
>> - How they interact with `&optional` and `&rest` (or even `&key` for
>> `c-defun`).
> ATM we already support in type specifiers `&optional` and `&rest`:
I know, but it needs to be documented.
> Not sure we want to handle &key as well as it looks to me not very
> native to the elisp machinery. OTOH cl-defun just expands to the
> native elisp call convention.
FWIW, I agree.
>> - What will/could happen if one of the arguments does not have the
>> specified type?
> I think if ones does a declaration has to declare the type of all
> arguments (rest should be optional).
I mean, what happens (both at compile-time and at run-time) when
`my-fun` says (function (number) number) but we call it with a string?
>> - What will/could happen if the result does not have the
>> specified type?
> I think we want to complete it with the inferred return type if we have
> it or t otherwise.
Same here: I meant what happens when `my-fun` actually returns nil
even though its own type declaration claims it returns a number?
Maybe we should also give a hint about the potential benefits (how it
influences the generated code), so coders can have a better idea about
when a type annotation is worthwhile and when it's not.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-03 14:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-23 16:02 Declaring Lisp function types Andrea Corallo
2024-02-23 23:35 ` Adam Porter
2024-02-24 7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-24 8:53 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-02-24 9:08 ` Adam Porter
2024-02-24 9:24 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-02-24 15:13 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-02-24 15:21 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-02-24 15:24 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-02-24 8:56 ` Adam Porter
2024-02-24 10:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-25 7:35 ` Adam Porter
2024-02-24 9:21 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-02-25 17:04 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-02-25 17:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-25 17:16 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-02-26 16:25 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-02-29 3:50 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-29 6:10 ` Adam Porter
2024-02-29 9:02 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-02-26 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-26 16:38 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-02-26 16:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-26 17:44 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-02-26 16:52 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-02-26 18:10 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-03-02 21:19 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2024-03-03 9:52 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-03-03 14:52 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2024-03-03 17:31 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-03-03 18:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-03-15 16:49 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-03-15 18:19 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-03-15 18:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-16 13:39 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-03-16 14:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-16 14:56 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2024-03-16 15:43 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-03-16 15:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-16 15:54 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-03-18 8:55 ` Lele Gaifax
2024-03-16 0:01 ` Adam Porter
2024-03-18 9:25 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-03-26 10:13 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-03-26 10:28 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-03-26 12:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-26 16:46 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-29 17:48 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-29 17:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-04-29 18:42 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-04-30 14:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-30 18:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-01 20:57 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-01 21:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-02 6:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-02 10:16 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-02 6:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-02 10:12 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-02 11:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-02 13:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-01 20:54 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-02 10:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-02 15:18 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-02 16:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-26 13:05 ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-03-26 13:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-03-26 14:28 ` Joost Kremers
2024-03-26 14:37 ` Stefan Monnier
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-03-16 7:46 Arthur Miller
2024-03-16 15:46 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-03-18 9:02 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-03-18 9:58 ` Arthur Miller
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