From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Pretest next week Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:40:01 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87y6x4ue2u.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <87ocxqnnb6.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <877i4dk1rx.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <87hc3ens4h.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247596807 5468 80.91.229.12 (14 Jul 2009 18:40:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:40:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 14 20:39:59 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MQmv0-0001i3-QQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:39:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33891 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MQmv0-00067k-11 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:39:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MQmuw-00067V-0J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:39:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MQmuq-00065i-Dt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:39:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47354 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MQmuq-00065f-9H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:39:48 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:14437) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MQmup-0005QX-UY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:39:48 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Au4EAOVtXEpMCpbp/2dsb2JhbACBUdELhAgFhm6CTA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.42,398,1243828800"; d="scan'208";a="41578876" Original-Received: from 76-10-150-233.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.150.233]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 14 Jul 2009 14:39:47 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 79EB07EF7; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:40:01 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu's message of "Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:32:50 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.94 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112461 Archived-At: > Now I suppose we are at "just before the 23.1 release". Will the NS > port be marked as experimental/hackers-only, or given a title of > "first-class" port as a part of the official release? I believe it is considered "first class port". At least I do not think it's "experimental". [ Of course, the situation is completely different for the GNUstep support ] > Besides stability/performance issues found in the bugtracker, it still > has several compatibility issues as I mentioned earlier (I added new > comments in brackets in the following): Yes, it still has a lot of room for improvement. Help is welcome. The points you raise all seem very relevant. Maybe you should add them in a new "Cocoa support" header in etc/TODO? Stefan