From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6774: Cut and paste with C-w/mouse-2 not working? Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:29:59 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4C55EF50.3080100@alice.it> <4C5645A1.7000500@harpegolden.net> <87y6coby49.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4C572AE6.7070104@harpegolden.net> <87wrs8ohnp.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4C573A2A.3030007@harpegolden.net> <8762zphkaw.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4C5B4E28.4090808@harpegolden.net> <87fwyr3glm.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4C5C7915.7080407@harpegolden.net> <87hbj6jj7o.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4C5DE6C7.5080706@harpegolden.net> <87vd7kcx52.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4C6038B9.1090508@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281425927 5346 80.91.229.12 (10 Aug 2010 07:38:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , 6774@debbugs.gnu.org, Angelo Graziosi To: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 10 09:38:45 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OijPz-0002XI-V2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:38:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55954 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OijPz-00071U-EA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 03:38:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47417 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OijPo-0006zQ-RT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 03:38:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OijPn-0006Jc-Gv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 03:38:28 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:57431) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OijPn-0006JW-D9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 03:38:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OijHf-0006QY-NL; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 03:30:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6774 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6774-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6774.128142536024679 (code B ref 6774); Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:30:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6774) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Aug 2010 07:29:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OijGy-0006Q0-9U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 03:29:20 -0400 Original-Received: from impaqm5.telefonica.net ([213.4.138.5]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OijGw-0006Pv-MR for 6774@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 03:29:19 -0400 Original-Received: from IMPmailhost4.adm.correo ([10.20.102.125]) by IMPaqm5.telefonica.net with bizsmtp id sWDi1e0042iL0W23RXW1Va; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:30:01 +0200 Original-Received: from ceviche.home ([83.40.4.203]) by IMPmailhost4.adm.correo with BIZ IMP id sXW01e0044NokFF1kXW0zU; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:30:01 +0200 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-TE-authinfo: authemail="monnier$movistar.es" |auth_email="monnier@movistar.es" X-TE-AcuTerraCos: auth_cuTerraCos="cosuitnetc01" Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id EAA7966138; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:29:59 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <4C6038B9.1090508@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv"'s?= message of "Mon, 09 Aug 2010 19:19:53 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 03:30:03 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:39394 Archived-At: >>> There's no analogue to the Emacs's ordinary (C-SPC) active regions in >>> other programs, and it's not even clear to me that it's good to set the >>> primary selection under most circumstances. The original point of >>> transient mark mode is to let you mark out a stretch of text to to >>> operate on (e.g. comment, or search, or undo), and I don't know if it's >>> really correct for us to set the primary selection at the same time. >> >> Indeed, I don't think it's good to do so. The old behavior of setting >> PRIMARY only when killing the text seems like the right behavior. >> Why would we want to change that? > Because it would conflict with > http://standards.freedesktop.org/clipboards-spec/clipboards-latest.txt, and > most other X applications set PRIMARY without an explicit kill or copy. That doesn't mean that C-SPC C-f should set PRIMARY. It just means that some other operations should be considered as forms of copy/kill. > And because it is convinient to be able to select text and then paste > with middle button in another application. Indeed, and Emacs-23 does that fine by saying that mouse-selection performs a `copy'. Stefan