From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs tool bar on Fedora14 Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 15:39:23 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4CDADD76.9070809@alice.it> <4CDAF28C.8040405@swipnet.se> <4CDD7CE5.4050809@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1289855184 4017 80.91.229.12 (15 Nov 2010 21:06:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 21:06:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs , Angelo Graziosi To: Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 15 22:06:20 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PI6Fn-00084W-Tn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:06:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35189 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PI6Fn-0004d8-9X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:06:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=58433 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PI6FB-0004Os-4v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:05:57 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PI6Ex-0003aa-BA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:05:40 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:57043 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PI6Ex-0003Xx-6P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 16:05:27 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0GAA4v4UxFpY76/2dsb2JhbAChXH1ywDuFSgSEWjiNJw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,201,1288584000"; d="scan'208";a="82622111" Original-Received: from 69-165-142-250.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.165.142.250]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 15 Nov 2010 16:05:26 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A9663660F5; Fri, 12 Nov 2010 15:39:23 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <4CDD7CE5.4050809@swipnet.se> ("Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv=22?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?'s?= message of "Fri, 12 Nov 2010 18:44:05 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:132655 Archived-At: >>> ** GTK tool bars can have just text, just images or images and text. >>> Customize `tool-bar-style' to choose style. On a Gnome desktop, the >>> default is taken from the desktop settings. >> BTW, I couldn't figure out how to customize it in Gnome. I do remember >> seeing such an option somewhere (maybe in gnome-appearance-properties) >> at some point in the past, but I can't seem to find it any more. > There used to be an Interface tab in Appearance but it has been removed by > the Gnome people. I guess that is logical, as they seem to move > towards a customization-free desktop. They decided that both-horiz (icon > followed by text) is what everybody should have. > Now you have to edit gconf directly either with gconf-editor or with > % gconftool-2 --set --type string /desktop/gnome/interface/toolbar_style both > Other values are both-horiz, text or icons. I think we should mention it in our documentation. And I also think there's something more going on: when I try gedit with various settings of /desktop/gnome/interface/toolbar_style, it's clear that in both-horiz setting, only some of the buttons get their text, whereas with Emacs they all do. That means that both-horiz is quite bearable with gedit but not with Emacs. And since both-horiz is the default, I think we need to figure out how to do the same as gedit does (i.e. specify which toolbar buttons need to have the text displayed in both-horiz and which don't). Stefan