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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: `save-excursion' defeated by `set-buffer'
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:52:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv39mtd5uk.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.25.1299833256.26376.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

> is there an example, where save-excursion will fail, ie not restore the
> buffer due to a set-buffer afterwards?

`save-excursion' is not the form to use to save the current buffer: that's
what save-current-buffer is for.  What `save-excursion' does is preserve
point (and mark), and some people tend to think of it as "undoes all
point movement", which is sadly only true for the current buffer but not
all buffers.

So (save-excursion (goto-char BAR)) is pretty much a no-op.

But (save-excursion (set-buffer FOO) (goto-char BAR)) is either:
- the same as (save-excursion (goto-char BAR)), in case FOO is already current.
- an inefficient form of (with-current-buffer FOO (goto-char BAR)).
I still haven't found any code out there where this behavior is what
is actually wanted and expected by the programmer.

In more than 90% of the cases, the intended meaning is
(with-current-buffer FOO (goto-char BAR)) and the behavior if FOO is
current (to additionally preserve point) is harmless, so the warning
simply points out an inefficiency.

In the remaining cases, FOO is almost always current, but when it's not
the resulting behavior is a bug.  I.e. the intended code is
(with-current-buffer FOO (save-excursion (goto-char BAR))).


        Stefan


  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-11 15:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.0.1299085819.4487.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-02 20:54 ` `save-excursion' defeated by `set-buffer' Uday Reddy
2011-03-05  4:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-10 19:57   ` Andreas Röhler
2011-03-11  1:07     ` Leo
2011-03-11  1:28     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-11  8:52       ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]       ` <mailman.25.1299833256.26376.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-11  9:54         ` David Kastrup
2011-03-11 11:09           ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]           ` <mailman.10.1299841456.13496.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-11 11:38             ` David Kastrup
2011-03-11 15:52         ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2011-03-12  8:59           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-12 19:00             ` Andreas Röhler
2011-03-12 19:56               ` Drew Adams
2011-03-12 20:27                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-12 22:20                   ` Drew Adams
2011-03-14 18:59                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-14 21:17                   ` Drew Adams
     [not found]               ` <mailman.6.1299959800.9013.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-13  3:00                 ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-13 18:22                   ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.0.1300040583.10860.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-14  1:04                     ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-14  8:43                       ` Drew Adams
     [not found]             ` <mailman.4.1299956141.9013.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-12 22:29               ` Tim X
2011-03-13  7:15                 ` Andreas Röhler
2011-03-13 18:23                   ` Drew Adams
2011-03-13 12:46                 ` Uday S Reddy
2011-03-14  8:47                   ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.7.1300092490.2602.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-14 12:22                     ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-14 14:20                     ` Uday S Reddy
2011-03-14 17:36                       ` Drew Adams
2011-03-14 23:20                         ` Uday S Reddy
2011-03-15  3:55                           ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.14.1300124226.2531.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-15 14:39                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-15 15:59                           ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.2.1300204800.1264.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-15 17:46                             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-15 18:55                               ` Drew Adams
2011-03-14 14:18                   ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.5.1300111985.27831.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-14 14:54                     ` Uday Reddy
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.5.1300000253.31664.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-13 14:16                   ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-13 18:25                     ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.2.1300040743.10860.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-13 20:48                       ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-14  0:31                         ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.4.1300066631.25374.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-14 14:34                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-13  2:11               ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-13 18:26                 ` Drew Adams
     [not found]           ` <mailman.5.1299920357.7270.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-12  9:34             ` David Kastrup
2011-03-12 10:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]               ` <mailman.10.1299924724.7270.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-12 10:42                 ` David Kastrup
2011-03-12 12:28                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-12 15:17                   ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-12 15:25                     ` David Kastrup
2011-03-13  2:40                       ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-14 14:25                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-14 17:26                           ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.11.1300123292.2531.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-15 14:35                             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-15 14:47                               ` David Kastrup
2011-03-15 15:19                               ` PJ Weisberg
2011-03-15 16:00                               ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.6.1300202904.14512.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-15 17:42                                 ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.3.1300204850.1264.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-15 17:49                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-15 18:56                                   ` Drew Adams
2011-03-15 21:30                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-15 19:02                                   ` Jason Earl
2011-03-15 20:55                                     ` Drew Adams
2011-03-16  4:31                                     ` rusi
2011-03-16  8:11                                       ` David Kastrup
2011-03-17  3:46                                         ` rusi
2011-03-17  7:10                                           ` rusi
2011-03-17  8:29                                             ` Antoine Levitt
     [not found]                                   ` <mailman.1.1300215374.6982.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-16 12:05                                     ` Uday S Reddy
2011-03-12 22:18             ` Tim X
2011-03-11 23:06         ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-10 22:40   ` David Kastrup
2011-03-11  2:46     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-01  3:20 ` rusi
2011-04-01 12:39   ` Uday Reddy
2011-03-02 17:12 Andreas Röhler
2011-03-03  4:58 ` Le Wang
     [not found] ` <mailman.7.1299128292.20537.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-03-13 15:05   ` Uday Reddy
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-12-20 19:19 Roland Winkler
2009-12-21 15:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-21 16:23   ` David Kastrup
2009-12-22 12:51     ` martin rudalics
2009-12-23  0:45     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-23  9:07       ` David Kastrup
2009-12-24  4:35         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-24  9:03           ` David Kastrup
2009-12-29 16:01             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-04  9:09               ` Drew Adams
2010-01-04 18:30                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-05 20:17                   ` David Kastrup
2010-01-06  0:02                     ` Drew Adams
2010-01-06  4:20                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-06  8:07                         ` David Kastrup
2010-01-06  8:57                           ` Drew Adams
2010-01-10  4:57                             ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-10  8:12                               ` David Kastrup
2010-01-10 21:43                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-11  8:24                                   ` David Kastrup
2010-01-11  9:21                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-01-11 16:50                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-10 17:03                               ` Drew Adams
2010-01-10  4:51                           ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-10 15:58                         ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2010-01-10 18:05                           ` martin rudalics
2010-01-10 18:06                           ` Drew Adams
2010-01-10 19:44                             ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2009-12-24 14:04   ` Roland Winkler
2010-01-04 17:08   ` Davis Herring
2010-01-04 17:34     ` David Kastrup
2010-01-04 18:33     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-18  9:20 Eli Zaretskii
2009-12-18 15:29 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-12-18 15:58   ` Thierry Volpiatto

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