From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#5184: 23.1; doc string of `count' Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 14:01:13 -0400 Message-ID: References: <6829B4C179F84A4E9CCFB159A2333365@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310867273 977 80.91.229.12 (17 Jul 2011 01:47:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 01:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen' , 5184@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 17 03:47:48 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiGSR-0002kQ-CQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2011 03:47:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56457 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QiGSQ-0003Ig-Le for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:47:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:36282) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QiGPq-0002nl-R0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:45:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QiGPo-0004c7-S7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:45:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:49545) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QiGPo-0004bY-BV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:45:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiGPn-0001oL-CP; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:45:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 01:45:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 5184 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 5184-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5184.13108670686882 (code B ref 5184); Sun, 17 Jul 2011 01:45:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 5184) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2011 01:44:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiGPC-0001mr-NT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:44:27 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiGPB-0001mY-L5 for 5184@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:44:25 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkEGAA0+Ik5MCqt8/2dsb2JhbABSLadIeIh8wHiGPASfJ4Qw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,215,1309752000"; d="scan'208";a="126220304" Original-Received: from 76-10-171-124.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([76.10.171.124]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 16 Jul 2011 21:44:19 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4AA1A6636A; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:44:19 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <6829B4C179F84A4E9CCFB159A2333365@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:47:07 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:45:03 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:49307 Archived-At: >> > Please state what the default :test function is (eql?). >> As with all the cl.el functions, where they follow the Common Lisp >> standard, they do not specify this. So I don't think this is a bug. > That just means that there is a bug in the other doc strings as well. > `cl.el' does not reproduce Common Lisp. Well cl.el tried to reproduce CommonLisp behavior and indeed followed the principle of focusing the doc on the differences w.r.t to CommonLisp. > We should explicitly say that the default value of :test for `count' > is #'eql, if this cl.el function has the same default :test as in > Common Lisp. I tend to agree that cl.el should be improved by making the docstrings self-contained rather than referring implicitly to the CommonLisp documentation. Patches to improve this are welcome. Stefan