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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Tomohiro Matsuyama <tomo@cx4a.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Should lexical-let use let in the situation lexical-binding is t ?
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:44:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv392f5x9e.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120918192807.6a426ea58372355516a2ea50@cx4a.org> (Tomohiro Matsuyama's message of "Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:28:07 +0900")

> I'm not sure that is valid, but if so, I think we should modify
> lexical-let to improve performance.

As mentioned in my reply there, the two aren't quite compatible (because
(lexical-let ((tab-width 4)) foo) will be a lexical binding, whereas
(let ((tab-width 4)) foo) will be a dynamic binding) so we could do
that, but only after checking that the lexical-let-bound variable is not
defvar'd, and this requires checking byte-compile-bound-variables, so it's
rather ugly to do from a macro.

Furthermore, it can be non-trivial for the macro to figure out whether
it's really called in a lexical-binding context or not and whether
byte-compile-bound-variables is relevant, since the macro call being
expanded might come from code being executed during compilation
(e.g. loaded via a `require') rather than from code being compiled.

I've recently tightened a bit the way lexical-binding is set, so that
testing `lexical-binding' in a macro should now be fairly accurate (the
C code rebinds lexical-binding during macro-calls to reflect whether the
macro is expanded in a lexical-binding context or not, rather than
leaving the variable's value determined by the current-buffer's local
value), but testing byte-compile-bound-variables is likely to
be unreliable.

IOW, it's OK for the OP to use such a macro himself because he hopefully
won't fall into those traps in those places where he uses it, but if we
do right in lexical-let so that it applies to all uses of lexical-let,
there's a good chance we could bump into those problems, and they may be
very difficult to track down.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-18 12:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-18 10:28 Should lexical-let use let in the situation lexical-binding is t ? Tomohiro Matsuyama
2012-09-18 12:44 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2012-09-18 22:42   ` Richard Stallman
2012-09-19  0:41     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-19 14:12       ` Richard Stallman
2012-09-19 19:01         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-19 22:06         ` Sam Steingold
2012-09-20  3:26           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-20 15:06             ` Sam Steingold
2012-09-19  1:20   ` Sam Steingold
2012-09-19  7:43     ` Nix
2012-09-21 18:18   ` Tomohiro Matsuyama
2012-09-21 21:18     ` Stefan Monnier

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