From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12797: 24.3.50; mml-atttach-file (C-c C-a) and ido Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 22:19:19 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87d2ztrfm1.fsf@gmail.com> <874nl54e6q.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1352085608 19858 80.91.229.3 (5 Nov 2012 03:20:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 03:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12797@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jambunathan K Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 05 04:20:18 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TVDEX-0008OK-4C for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 04:20:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53379 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TVDEO-0002r4-7b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 22:20:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36110) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TVDEK-0002pF-B7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 22:20:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TVDEJ-0007pY-23 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 22:20:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39235) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TVDEI-0007ng-UZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 22:20:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TVDHC-0000nC-Ra for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 22:23:04 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 03:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12797 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12797-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12797.13520857703024 (code B ref 12797); Mon, 05 Nov 2012 03:23:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12797) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Nov 2012 03:22:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49486 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TVDGy-0000mg-4u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 22:22:49 -0500 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:46406) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TVDGe-0000mE-LH for 12797@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 22:22:38 -0500 Original-Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qA53JJdh024294; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 22:19:20 -0500 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 7EE4EAE1F7; Sun, 4 Nov 2012 22:19:19 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <874nl54e6q.fsf@gmail.com> (Jambunathan K.'s message of "Sun, 04 Nov 2012 20:18:13 +0530") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4392=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4392> : streams <851886> : uri <1260311> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:66459 Archived-At: >>> When I am attaching files to mails via C-c C-a, I am fooled in to >>> thinking that the intereface for reading file is not that of ido but the >>> default one (Emacs + icomplete). >> I do not know why you feel this way. Can you be more precise? > Try it out. (May be you don't rely ido much? May be this is the reason > my "experience" seems a bit "out of place" to you?) > I gave example of BACKSPACE (which you have stripped). To clarify: I have not stated any opinion on what you suggest, for the simple reason that I do not know/understand what it is. Are you reporting a bug in ido, a bug in icomplete, requesting new features in icomplete? >>> Can someone install the needful, so that I don't keep tripping over >>> differences in the implementation. >> Your bug report did not make it clear what are "the needful", >> I'm afraid. > I have indicated two needfuls - defalias (which needs to be undefaliased > if ido is turned off) or the (put .. 'ido ..) stuff. Unfortunately, you > have deemed it as insubstantial. No, I just don't understand what they're about. E.g. why/when do you need them? Why are they a problem? Would you want them to be included in Emacs? If not, are you saying that it should be easier to do it in one's .emacs? > ps: I am arguing for consistency of file-reading/completion experience. > A user cannot be concerned with who provides the interface - ido, > iswitchb or anything else. AFAIK, the default completion is fairly consistent. The iswitchb completion is inconsistent by nature: it's specific to buffer completion. So, this is requesting a change in ido? Stefan