From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal to improve the nomenclature of scrolling directions Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:05:08 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ehk8umhu.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <20121107.091225.1379093408169018283.hanche@math.ntnu.no> <87y5i5vpo5.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1352826320 25762 80.91.229.3 (13 Nov 2012 17:05:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Harald Hanche-Olsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Bastien Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 13 18:05:30 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TYJvU-0005rH-7C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:05:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59272 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TYJvK-0006Hf-GY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:05:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50947) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TYJvF-0006Gw-Is for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:05:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TYJvC-0005Gs-Gm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:05:13 -0500 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:55352) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TYJvC-0005Fj-93; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:05:10 -0500 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qADH58Yf006042; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:05:08 -0500 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8D344B4278; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:05:08 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87y5i5vpo5.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (Bastien's message of "Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:05:14 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4401=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4401> : streams <857626> : uri <1267126> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:154849 Archived-At: > But here, the issue is not only about the names of these commands but > also about the choice of '<' and '>' wrt the consistency with M-< and > M->. With M-< going at the beginning of the buffer, C-x < suggests > scrolling toward the beginning of the left margin (at least to me), > which is... the opposite of the current behavior. I tend to agree. And the consistency with C-v agrees as well. Stefan