From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 12911@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether) `emacs_backtrace.txt' files are written
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 13:35:15 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv39051lyw.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83fw45xxzk.fsf@gnu.org>
>> >> >> No need to change anything on platforms where stderr works.
>> >> > stderr works on Windows as well. See the code I wrote.
>> >> If stderr works, then why do we need emacs_backtrace.txt?
>> > For when the stuff written to stderr ends up in the Great Void, or
>> > scrolls off the screen, or whatever.
>> Right. That's what I meant by "stderr doesn't work" (IOW while it does
>> work in some cases, it can't be relied upon).
> But then your first sentence above applies not only to Windows,
> because stderr "doesn't work" in this sense on Unix as well.
I don't know of any case under Unix where stderr is dumped into the
great void (except for cases where the user would then also want the
backtrace to be dumped in that great void).
>> So let me reword my suggestion:
>> I suggested to change the code such that, in those cases where we need
>> to use emacs_backtrace.txt, we use ~/.emacs.d/backtrace.txt instead.
> I already agreed to this, provided that Emacs puts stderr output there
> on all platforms.
Yes, on all platforms where emacs_backtrace.txt is needed (in practice,
this does reduce to w32, AFAIK).
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-19 18:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-16 20:48 bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether) `emacs_backtrace.txt' files are written Drew Adams
2012-11-16 21:05 ` bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether) `emacs_backtrace.txt'files " Drew Adams
2012-11-16 21:19 ` bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether) `emacs_backtrace.txt' files " Stefan Monnier
2012-11-17 7:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-17 17:38 ` Drew Adams
2012-11-17 17:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-17 18:24 ` Drew Adams
2012-11-19 1:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-19 3:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-19 4:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-19 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-19 18:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-19 18:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-19 18:35 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2012-11-19 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-19 19:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-19 20:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-19 21:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-20 3:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20 4:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-20 5:02 ` Daniel Colascione
2012-11-20 13:16 ` Andy Moreton
2012-11-20 16:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20 17:36 ` Daniel Colascione
2012-11-20 18:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20 18:57 ` bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether)`emacs_backtrace.txt' " Drew Adams
2012-11-20 19:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20 21:47 ` Drew Adams
2012-11-21 3:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-21 4:03 ` Daniel Colascione
2012-11-21 15:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-11-21 16:24 ` bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether)`emacs_backtrace.txt' filesare written Drew Adams
[not found] ` <E86D7DFBD2BD4C3394E5316EF0321A! 95@us.oracle.com>
2012-11-21 16:45 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-11-21 17:40 ` Drew Adams
2012-11-21 17:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-11-21 18:01 ` Drew Adams
2012-11-21 18:13 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-11-21 18:42 ` Drew Adams
2012-11-20 18:30 ` bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether) `emacs_backtrace.txt' files are written Stefan Monnier
2012-11-20 18:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20 20:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-20 16:36 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-11-20 17:11 ` bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether) `emacs_backtrace.txt'files " Drew Adams
2012-11-20 17:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20 18:10 ` Drew Adams
2012-11-20 18:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20 19:15 ` Dani Moncayo
2012-11-20 19:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20 20:11 ` Dani Moncayo
2012-11-20 20:37 ` selected-frame and selected-window Stefan Monnier
2012-11-21 17:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-08 12:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-08 23:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-09 3:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-14 15:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-14 16:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-20 17:49 ` bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether) `emacs_backtrace.txt' files are written Eli Zaretskii
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-11-16 18:30 bug#12908: 24.3.50; file `emacs_backtrace.txt'? Drew Adams
2012-11-17 18:45 ` Paul Eggert
2012-11-17 19:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-17 19:29 ` Paul Eggert
2012-11-17 19:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-17 21:25 ` Paul Eggert
2012-11-18 4:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-18 5:19 ` Paul Eggert
2012-11-18 17:16 ` bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether) `emacs_backtrace.txt' files are written Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-18 19:18 ` Paul Eggert
2012-11-18 21:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-19 1:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-11-19 3:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-17 23:01 ` bug#12908: 24.3.50; file `emacs_backtrace.txt'? Drew Adams
2012-11-18 3:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-18 4:40 ` Drew Adams
2012-11-18 17:53 ` bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether) `emacs_backtrace.txt' files are written Eli Zaretskii
2012-11-18 18:42 ` Drew Adams
2012-11-18 5:19 ` bug#12908: 24.3.50; file `emacs_backtrace.txt'? Paul Eggert
2012-11-18 17:08 ` bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether) `emacs_backtrace.txt' files are written Eli Zaretskii
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