From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16752: 24.3.50; pp-to-string deactivates mark Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:27:49 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83y51dbltf.fsf@gnu.org> <83mwhsc0f1.fsf@gnu.org> <837g8u9ug0.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1392668895 4451 80.91.229.3 (17 Feb 2014 20:28:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16752@debbugs.gnu.org, eller.helmut@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 17 21:28:22 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WFUne-00005x-1x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 21:28:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44039 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WFUnd-0000aF-JU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:28:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55418) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WFUnS-0000Yz-Pm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:28:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WFUnL-0003D8-Ed for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:28:10 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55852) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WFUnL-0003D4-AX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:28:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WFUnK-0000E7-Fo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:28:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16752 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16752-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16752.1392668879861 (code B ref 16752); Mon, 17 Feb 2014 20:28:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16752) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Feb 2014 20:27:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57034 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WFUnF-0000Dn-SQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:27:58 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:22627) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WFUnD-0000DW-1H for 16752@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:27:55 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EABK/CFFLd/lO/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMQCzQSFBgNJIgeBsEtkQoDiGGcGYFegxWBSCQ X-IPAS-Result: Av8EABK/CFFLd/lO/2dsb2JhbABEuzWDWRdzgh4BAQQBViMQCzQSFBgNJIgeBsEtkQoDiGGcGYFegxWBSCQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="47893616" Original-Received: from 75-119-249-78.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([75.119.249.78]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 17 Feb 2014 15:27:49 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 53F2C60176; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:27:49 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <837g8u9ug0.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 17 Feb 2014 07:31:11 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:85781 Archived-At: >> > My suggestion would free implementors of pp-to-string etc. from doing >> > that in every place where they use temporary buffers, which is a very >> > frequent paradigm in Emacs. >> But it'll break code like >> >> (let ((buf (current-buffer))) >> (with-temp-buffer >> ... >> (with-current-buffer buf >> (insert "toto")) >> ...)) > And that is a problem because..? Because it breaks some code. After thinking some more about it, I wonder, tho: why don't we just make deactivate-mark buffer-local? Stef