From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Finding packages to enable by default Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 10:44:49 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ob4fg3zp.fsf@gmail.com> <874mzgdm3d.fsf@mithlond.arda> <87r42jd7ld.fsf@mithlond.arda> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1403275522 32263 80.91.229.3 (20 Jun 2014 14:45:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 14:45:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Teemu Likonen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 20 16:45:15 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Wy03x-0002Qf-Eb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 16:45:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41423 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wy03x-0008UX-2X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 10:45:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54523) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wy03m-0008Qi-RH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 10:45:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wy03e-0002rU-Et for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 10:44:58 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:1808) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wy03e-0002rI-BO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 10:44:50 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUGAIDvNVNLd+D9/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSsA9gRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiAQI0hkXjnoHhDgEqRmBaoNMIQ X-IPAS-Result: ArUGAIDvNVNLd+D9/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSsA9gRcXdIIlAQEBAQIBViMFCwsOJhIUGA0kiAQI0hkXjnoHhDgEqRmBaoNMIQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="68761179" Original-Received: from 75-119-224-253.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([75.119.224.253]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 20 Jun 2014 10:44:49 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 9BA7860D09; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 10:44:49 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87r42jd7ld.fsf@mithlond.arda> (Teemu Likonen's message of "Fri, 20 Jun 2014 16:38:22 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 206.248.154.181 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:172573 Archived-At: > Perhaps it's a standard. I, for one, use on-the-fly spelling checker a > lot in Emacs, just never flyspell. Good, so we agree. > If any spell-checker is enabled by default it should also actually work > with all/most human languages and the way users expect. Otherwise it > gets in the way. There are languages which can't be spell-checked with > ispell-like programs and it seems that Emacs's ispell/flyspell is very > much tied to those. Yes, that's also part of what's needed to enable it by default, indeed. Stefan