From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Change Tramp syntax
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 11:56:05 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv37elozm8.fsf-monnier+emacsdiffs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mvcti5he.fsf_-_@detlef> (Michael Albinus's message of "Fri, 10 Mar 2017 15:14:21 +0100")
> Maybe we shall start a poll, in emacs-devel, emacs-help and
> tramp-devel. We should not ask what a user prefers (many of them will
> prefer not to type a method). They question must be what will be broken
> if we stop support for ange-ftp syntax "/host:/path/to/file".
Actually, there are several options, for example:
1- Get rid of ange-ftp syntax altogether, like you propose.
2- Keep the syntax, but only when it doesn't collide with the
Tramp syntax. I.e. /fencepost:foo will still be allowed, but
if you want to access a host named "ssh" you'll need something like
/ftp:ssh:foo or /ssh:ssh:foo or /ssh.domain:foo or /user@ssh:foo.
I.e. /foo: will only be considered ange-ftp syntax if `foo` is not a method.
3- Like 2 but treat /foo:./bar and /foo:/bar as an ange-ftp syntax even if
`foo` is a method.
I never use ange-ftp syntax (although I only ever use the `ssh` method),
so I could live with 1 (and it sure would simplify the code), but I'm in
favor of option 2 because I think it is the simplest option that still
preserves the main benefit of the ange-ftp syntax (i.e. the default
method).
> This would also mean, that we cannot support default methods anymore. A
> file name with a default method would look like "/:host:/path/to/file",
> which is already the quoted file name syntax.
If really needed we could use something like `/-:host:`.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-03-10 16:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20170309184457.29604.13048@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
[not found] ` <20170309184458.08C9725FCF@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2017-03-10 8:43 ` [Emacs-diffs] master 37b88d7: Fix bug#23006 Stefan Monnier
2017-03-10 10:00 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-10 10:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-10 10:32 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-10 10:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-10 14:14 ` Change Tramp syntax (was: [Emacs-diffs] master 37b88d7: Fix bug#23006) Michael Albinus
2017-03-10 15:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-03 15:54 ` Change Tramp syntax John Wiegley
2017-04-03 17:00 ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-03 23:14 ` John Wiegley
2017-04-03 23:35 ` Drew Adams
2017-04-04 8:46 ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-04 16:46 ` John Wiegley
2017-04-04 16:59 ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-04 19:44 ` John Wiegley
2017-04-06 19:12 ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-07 5:27 ` John Wiegley
2017-04-08 16:43 ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-13 18:00 ` John Wiegley
2017-04-07 13:52 ` Filipp Gunbin
2017-04-07 14:02 ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-08 16:41 ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-09 19:18 ` Talking about Lisp symbols Richard Stallman
2017-04-10 13:43 ` Change Tramp syntax Filipp Gunbin
2017-04-10 16:18 ` Teemu Likonen
2017-04-10 16:45 ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-10 18:03 ` Teemu Likonen
2017-04-04 17:04 ` John Wiegley
2017-04-04 17:50 ` Michael Albinus
2017-04-04 21:08 ` John Wiegley
2017-04-04 7:09 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-03-10 16:56 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2017-03-11 19:44 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-11 20:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-11 20:31 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-12 15:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-12 18:30 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-12 22:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-13 17:23 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-13 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-13 17:35 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-14 3:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-14 9:06 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-14 14:13 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-14 16:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-14 15:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-11 21:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-12 9:10 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-12 17:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-12 18:43 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-12 21:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-03-13 7:23 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-10 10:30 ` [Emacs-diffs] master 37b88d7: Fix bug#23006 Dmitry Gutov
2017-03-10 10:36 ` Michael Albinus
2017-03-10 13:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-03-10 10:34 ` Stefan Monnier
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=jwv37elozm8.fsf-monnier+emacsdiffs@gnu.org \
--to=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca \
--cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
--cc=michael.albinus@gmx.de \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.