From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Question about defcustom and :set-after Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:37:07 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87vac8z1lv.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1525134978 13599 195.159.176.226 (1 May 2018 00:36:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 00:36:18 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 01 02:36:14 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fDJH6-0003N1-MJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 May 2018 02:36:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34317 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fDJJD-0005xe-Jb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:38:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49899) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fDJIO-0005wN-7M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:37:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fDJIJ-00038E-Ab for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:37:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=53675 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fDJIJ-000381-3G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2018 20:37:23 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fDJG6-0002Hh-0p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 May 2018 02:35:06 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 16 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:r9Tgle0S+WyQ7FxH/ZIPtpPxJ7M= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:225003 Archived-At: > So I started writing support for a Gnus mock environment: you call > `gnus-mock' and it starts up a Gnus session completely independent of > your own Gnus customizations, that has some dummy data in it that gets > flushed and restored each time you restart the mock session. Sounds really useful. > That involves saving all relevant customizations (and some defvars) and > putting them aside, then setting all customization options (and some > defvars) back to their default values, and starting Gnus. Are you intending this mock environment to be used from a running Emacs session or from "emacs -Q"? Stefan