From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9134: don't force mystery on user trying to find out what is completing after the word "ssh" in *shell* Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 08:26:23 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87fwm0zf60.fsf@jidanni.org> <874l0ct7vh.fsf@gnus.org> <0449ae1f85bbc0076cbfde9b61996660@webmail.orcon.net.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="73866"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 9134@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org To: Phil Sainty Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 14 14:34:06 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iJzY3-000IzV-Pu for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Yes. > I feel like it would be nice if the *Help* remained local to the > same buffer for as long as you remained in the *Help* window. I think I agree. > What would perhaps be nice is for the *actual* sequence of events > to be tracked internally, and reported on request, so that the > user could ask "where did the completion(s) actually come from?" > and be told the answer. I don't think the "sequence of events" is really necessary, but maybe just the "last bit" (i.e. pcmpl-ssh-hosts in your example), but yes, reporting upon request after-the-fact could be good, tho it's probably going to be hard to make it sufficiently discoverable. Stefan