From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rethinking the design of xwidgets Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 09:36:04 -0400 Message-ID: References: <864kmzupp0.fsf@akirakyle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8524"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Akira Kyle Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 13 15:37:17 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kSKUO-00026w-OG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 15:37:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44764 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSKUN-0000oV-ON for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 09:37:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45588) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSKTL-0008Q3-Kh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 09:36:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:13555) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSKTH-0002FZ-CQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 09:36:10 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 5031A1006CA; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 09:36:06 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 1192710034E; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 09:36:05 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1602596165; bh=Ife+ape/+U7M7XBThHsqvfTXh3mg+wz2ahaJouCBNLY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Cy6XWP4TSu8mSpcg2G2BrZCJJoo0kqFUQCeqaVM3fEwsmRLSh3fkFlDuFIhtGRutW 3Sg1rjLffajBg++3V45/WtAL84f9wVX1l56NGhZvoz5xzpmnd/vA5BOyRtcOGAiPPe RREd4pWshfhie3OdytAeXUqczYd0LhWUVhy2z3Pz0gAEAgIn4Cj11W1/k1NU58uFxp fbPZ0mXeivFBxL6N5corLCOAB57aR0pkTYTafMNqRbgPdOTwqZgCa7X1jeU7L4+UXd QgtixPhK6GEPEbSP4bwGbW+zR6RZhDxaeBa8HFD/iKoqp0Q2HYLBvRJiGfN2NfIm3w mMXJ6GmQrlMyQ== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [157.52.9.240]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9ECB81202A1; Tue, 13 Oct 2020 09:36:04 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <864kmzupp0.fsf@akirakyle.com> (Akira Kyle's message of "Mon, 12 Oct 2020 14:58:19 -0600") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=132.204.25.50; envelope-from=monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; helo=mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/13 09:23:30 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257530 Archived-At: Hi Kyle, > If you don't care about the motivation and background for this problem skip > the next two paragraphs. Thanks for the motivation and background. > I'd be interested in any thoughts anyone might have about this proposal and > if some changes along this line might have some chance of being accepted in > master someday. I've always wanted to dig into the nity grity c code of > emacs and this has finally given me the excuse to do so! Akira Your analysis sounds quite right and using `emacs-modules` seems like a very good approach. I don't have much to contribute to this, except to encourage you to go at it. It sounds exciting. Stefan