From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#50869: 28.0.50; tramp: void-function tramp-file-name-method--cmacro Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2022 12:44:24 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87tuhzcrje.fsf@gmx.de> <87pmlydvd4.fsf@gmx.de> <87r10shits.fsf@gnus.org> <87zgff9ons.fsf@gmx.de> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21963"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , shuguang79@qq.com, 50869@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 04 18:45:45 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oUski-0005ar-NM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2022 18:45:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50380 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oUskh-0000gP-GL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2022 12:45:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37468) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oUsk2-0000gD-Ug for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2022 12:45:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:56850) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oUsk2-0006kt-Kj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2022 12:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oUsk2-00062e-Du for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2022 12:45:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2022 16:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50869 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 50869-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50869.166230988123179 (code B ref 50869); Sun, 04 Sep 2022 16:45:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 50869) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Sep 2022 16:44:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45549 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oUsjh-00061n-69 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2022 12:44:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:4430) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oUsjc-00061W-2A for 50869@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2022 12:44:39 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 538FF440914; Sun, 4 Sep 2022 12:44:29 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C008344053A; Sun, 4 Sep 2022 12:44:27 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1662309867; bh=lOGNre6xCtedD6NOhqWAgMlRc3+XiCBGtOSINbPnVnM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=i0ZXLLXTZ8a3eXYjbIw6aRIEDc+Wk71yHNX+DpNFYmGErX7hZZwjOesZ+aZznd5Sm e+welA4UNR951WaYgCiSXvmFg41mAefz/8e7h38Oo5dk9F6DjLYkdab/n/DDjkHrez do+fOmGbwUjQRX1QVQ5fkpwMhEXXEqQX7XTkEUt9FoXwWqcVFKhl9iiri4fzqBlBoN ttGZ3TXVciQ8vQKeNmnvXfly2Y1j5AqycAOIIruBBWtpPCeamSec/2J0IVy9HhWqB8 7T9x1rFl+dLlSNb6RJLNFK5RWrGfCGkj9dus8NvEpFQ3+srXaooFUYbEWixj6pkVr8 7eyeaN/+s53IQ== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [157.52.9.190]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 773241207FD; Sun, 4 Sep 2022 12:44:27 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87zgff9ons.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Sun, 04 Sep 2022 16:53:27 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:241509 Archived-At: Michael Albinus [2022-09-04 16:53:27] wrote: > Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of > text editors" writes: > >> Pushed to `master`. This should fix this bug, which means we may want >> to update the comment: >> >> ;; The basic structure for remote file names. We must autoload it in >> ;; tramp-loaddefs.el, because some functions, which need it, wouldn't >> ;; work otherwise when unloading / reloading Tramp. (Bug#50869) >> >> to clarify that it's now still kept in `tramp-loaddefs` but for >> other reasons. > > Somehow, I don't understand the compiler machinery. Hmm. In `master`, the unload problem described in bug#50869 has been fixed. So the above comment suggests that we could remove the `;;;###tramp-autoload` cookie in front of the `cl-defstruct`, but if you do that, you get into other problems because the current Tramp code puts other thins in `tramp-loaddefs.el` which also require this `cl-defstruct` to be evaluated first. > What comment you'd like to use instead? Remember, Tramp is backward > compatible down to Emacs 26. Something like ;; The basic structure for remote file names. ;; Note: We started autoloading it in tramp-loaddefs.el, because some ;; functions, which needed it, wouldn't work otherwise when unloading ;; / reloading Tramp (Bug#50869). ;; This bug is fixed in Emacs-29, but other parts of Tramp have grown ;; dependencies on having this in `tramp-loaddefs.el` in the mean time, ;; so .... here we are. ? -- Stefan