From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On the new startup and scratch buffer Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:19:42 -0500 Message-ID: References: <47B319AD.3030804@alice.it> <87zlu4oi48.fsf@bar.jrock.us> <47B3320C.8060800@alice.it> <87ve4ip7g1.fsf@bar.jrock.us> <873arcvg86.fsf@jurta.org> <87hcfrid17.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87ablhu96w.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204579283 12454 80.91.229.12 (3 Mar 2008 21:21:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:21:23 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 03 22:21:48 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JWI6V-0003Ve-Ep for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:21:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JWI5n-00025Y-QI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:21:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JWI4a-0001MH-JW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:19:48 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JWI4V-0001Kp-Uo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:19:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JWI4V-0001Kj-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:19:43 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca ([206.248.154.182]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JWI4V-0006SH-FP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:19:43 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAIr6y0fO+LKX/2dsb2JhbACuB4EA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,440,1199682000"; d="scan'208";a="15514344" Original-Received: from smtp.pppoe.ca ([65.39.196.238]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 03 Mar 2008 16:19:42 -0500 Original-Received: from pastel.home ([206.248.178.151]) by smtp.pppoe.ca (Internet Mail Server v1.0) with ESMTP id JYW67042; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:19:42 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 645268279; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 16:19:42 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: ("Johan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bockg=1FFFFFFFrd=22's?= message of "Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:01:58 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91227 Archived-At: >> The recent patch was installed after complaints from users that even >> when initial-scratch-message is non-nil the scratch buffer is still >> empty. > I agree that `inhibit-startup-screen' should not disable the scratch > message, but I think that emacs-quick-startup (-Q) should. (After your > patch it doesn't.) I see no reason why -Q should inhibit the scratch message. It's probably OK if it does, but it seems preferable if it doesn't. Stefan