From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#2623: 23.0.91; File is under version-control; use C-x v v to check in/out Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:55:25 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 2623@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1236785055 17528 80.91.229.12 (11 Mar 2009 15:24:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:24:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, 2623@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Leo Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 11 16:25:28 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LhQJ2-0004wd-I5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:25:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45004 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LhQHg-0007oy-Hg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:23:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LhQHa-0007kz-1c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:23:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LhQHY-0007hX-Jv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:23:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47016 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LhQHY-0007hI-6j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:23:44 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:47072) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LhQHX-0006Po-Lz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:23:43 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n2BFNfZu028224; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 08:23:41 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n2BF561W023685; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 08:05:06 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:05:06 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2623 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.123678334321454 (code B ref -1); Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:05:06 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Mar 2009 14:55:43 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:23:44 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:26244 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:24104 Archived-At: >>> File is under version-control; use C-x v v to check in/out >>> This message is misleading if not wrong as most of the version control >>> tools do not use read-only to indicate their status. >> Check in/out used to be bound to C-x C-q (because back then, most of the >> version control tools did use read-only to indicate their status), so >> the above message is there to remind people who have C-x C-q hardcoded >> in their fingers that maybe they really meant to type C-x v v. > Should this be changed in 21st? I do not understand what "21st" is referring to. >> BTW, why did you type C-x C-q? Is the file read-only? > Sometimes I turn the file into read-only before showing to other people > in case they accidentally type something into it. I see, so in this case we could probably avoid the message by being a bit more clever (e.g. don't show the message if it's not the first time C-x C-q is used in this buffer). Stefan