From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why js2-mode in Emacs 23.2? Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:55:40 -0400 Message-ID: References: <7b501d5c0908091634ndfba631vd9db6502db301097@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1249917441 2579 80.91.229.12 (10 Aug 2009 15:17:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Leo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 10 17:17:14 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MaWcb-0001kn-Gb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:17:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51344 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MaWca-0007WQ-OW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:17:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MaWHv-00079h-Rf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:55:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MaWHq-00074d-3t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:55:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45947 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MaWHp-00073y-Sb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:55:45 -0400 Original-Received: from tomts10.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.54]:35556 helo=tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MaWHo-0000xL-Vv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:55:45 -0400 Original-Received: from toip3.srvr.bell.ca ([209.226.175.86]) by tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20090810145544.WOKT12711.tomts10-srv.bellnexxia.net@toip3.srvr.bell.ca> for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:55:44 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAD7Mf0pGN48s/2dsb2JhbACBUs4hhBgF Original-Received: from bas1-montreal42-1178046252.dsl.bell.ca (HELO ceviche.home) ([70.55.143.44]) by toip3.srvr.bell.ca with ESMTP; 10 Aug 2009 10:48:07 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C127EB454F; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:55:40 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Leo's message of "Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:04:38 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:113971 Archived-At: > It seems to me that when there is a need to use eval-after-load in a > package included in Emacs some bad-design is happening. For example, > imenu probably needs to provide a better interface for other packages to > interact with it. Exactly. It's just like defadvice: it's a great tool for users (and external package maintainers), and it can be handy when the right fix is hard to get (e.g. requires a serious redesign or heavy argumentation), but it's still in the "to be avoided" category. Stefan