From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Return Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:09:34 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87mxojwu15.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87k4jnweng.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291662601 7464 80.91.229.12 (6 Dec 2010 19:10:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 19:10:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: MON KEY , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 06 20:09:55 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPgRZ-0006EC-6J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 20:09:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49466 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PPgRY-0002bS-Ep for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:09:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=41647 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PPgRN-0002a7-Mb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:09:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PPgRM-0000Q9-8l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:09:37 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:56690 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PPgRM-0000Q0-4n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:09:36 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AicIACPD/ExFxLmf/2dsb2JhbACiMIELcr5OhUkEhF+NfQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,306,1288584000"; d="scan'208";a="84683274" Original-Received: from 69-196-185-159.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.196.185.159]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 06 Dec 2010 14:09:35 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C6E21661BF; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 14:09:34 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87k4jnweng.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Mon, 06 Dec 2010 16:20:51 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:133463 Archived-At: > creating an anonymous function. IOW, no, nothing special happens at > compile time and no, lexbind won't change that. Any semantic changes > that happen to lambda will happen to defun and vice versa. ;-) Actually, I'm considering to disallow non-top-level defuns in lexical-scope mode, just because it's a good opportunity to introduce such "breakage" and because non-top-level defuns are bugs in 99% of the cases (in Elisp). Stefan