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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: ken manheimer <ken.manheimer@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bizarre problem with minor mode defined using define-minor-mode
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 23:48:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv1v4dv4ql.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimXLtgy6Be+GyuZp0kw=Gy83NWJbRRdrO3pD7f_@mail.gmail.com> (ken manheimer's message of "Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:06:11 -0500")

> i agree that the code is painfully complicated.  however, the fset
> actually is effective and necessary to impose the minor-mode keymap
> adjustments allout does.

I really can't understand who it could be effective.  My reading of the
code tells me that function binding is never used.

> in fact, removing the fset leads to the same problems with the
> regular, defun'ed allout-mode that i have been seeing with the
> byte-compiled define-minor-mode defined allout mode.

That's what I would expect, since I think this fset is a no-op.

> the problem with switching to define-minor-mode is that
> define-minor-mode apparently associates the mode name with the keymap
> value, itself, on minor-mode-map-alist.

That's because that's what you told it:

  :keymap <exp>

says to use the value of <exp> as the keymap, so ":keymap
allout-mode-map" says to use the value of the variable as the keymap.
If you want to use a symbol, then you need to quote it.

This said, you can modify a keymap after the fact: as long as you don't
do a (setq allout-mode-map <newmap>), you can modify allout-mode-map on
the fly and those changes will take effect immediately without having to
use an indirection through the allout-mode-map symbol.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-16  4:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <AANLkTimf5w9-N=j7wLnb339xDD7PCGDf1f=H4EGoO1TJ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <AANLkTimiwTZA4UHpEPo83cFZK9r4VWkwesGcDo4GGVGu@mail.gmail.com>
2010-12-26  0:31     ` bizarre problem with minor mode defined using define-minor-mode ken manheimer
2011-01-11 21:42       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-16  1:06         ` ken manheimer
2011-01-16  4:48           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2011-01-16  6:15             ` ken manheimer
2011-01-16  6:46               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-16  8:55                 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-01-20 18:21                 ` ken manheimer

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