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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: dmantipov@yandex.ru, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Memory again
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 15:25:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv1ushe9rj.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8362htbos6.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 06 Dec 2011 19:20:09 +0200")

>> Still, the point in any case is that if the buffer is 60MB, then killing
>> it will return those 60MB to the kernel, but it won't return to the
>> kernel the memory allocated for Lisp objects such as interval nodes
>> (used for text-properties), cons cells, strings, etc...
> ??? Don't we free interval nodes that point into a buffer that is
> killed?  Why would we need to keep them around?

They should be put on the free list, but whether or not they're returned
to the malloc library depends on whether or not block of those elements
is fully free.  I.e. like with most other Lisp data types.

I think we could fairly easily change the code so that interval objects
are not managed by the GC but my malloc instead.

> Anyway, the theory behind this experiment is that inserting lots of
> text in small chunks causes massive reallocations, one each for every
> time you fill the gap, and this fragmentation of the memory, which
> then makes it impossible to release more than the last 60MB.

I doubt that's what happens.  I think instead that the extra memory is
what is used by the various text properties we add.  It is true that
Emacs makes request from malloc in "10KB" chunks for Lisp data, so any
malloc fragment smaller than that can only be used for things like
vectors I guess, but it doesn't seem sufficient to explain the effect
we're seeing.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-06 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-26 13:26 Memory again Carsten Mattner
2011-11-26 13:28 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-26 14:35 ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-11-26 14:48   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-26 17:37     ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-11-26 20:19       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-26 14:58   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-26 16:23     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-26 19:02       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-26 20:31         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-26 21:00           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-27 10:29           ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-27 10:43             ` Andreas Schwab
2011-11-27 13:53               ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-27 13:11             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-27 13:53               ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-27 16:44                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-11-27 17:37                   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-27 17:59                   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-06  4:02       ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-12-06  5:08         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-06  9:35           ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-06 10:24             ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-12-06 13:07               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-06 13:29               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-06 17:20                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-06 20:25                   ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2011-12-07  7:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-07  8:15                       ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-12-07 13:06                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-07 14:01                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-08 17:30                             ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-09  3:39                               ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-12-09 13:52                                 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-06 13:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-06 16:28           ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-12-06 19:53             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-11 17:49               ` Nix
2011-12-15  3:52               ` Tim Connors
2011-12-15  4:09                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-15  4:38                   ` Tim Connors
2011-12-15  5:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-15  4:50                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-12-15  6:04                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-16 21:55                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-17 17:40                   ` Nix
2011-12-18 15:13                   ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-12-19  1:34                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-19  8:28                       ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-12-19 11:26                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-23 16:49                           ` Nix
2012-01-25 16:19                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-11-26 17:54     ` Dmitry Antipov
2011-11-26 18:47       ` martin rudalics
2011-11-26 19:09       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-28  4:27     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-11-28  9:24       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-28 15:31         ` Davis Herring
2011-11-28 21:33           ` Carsten Mattner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-12-19 19:51 emacs user
2011-12-20  5:32 ` Dmitry Antipov
2012-01-06 14:28 ` Chong Yidong
2012-01-06 15:53   ` emacs user
2011-12-20  6:34 emacs user
2011-12-20  7:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-20 12:05   ` emacs user
2011-12-20 13:04     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-20 22:07       ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-21  8:07       ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-21 10:39         ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-21 17:55         ` emacs user
2011-12-22 14:08           ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-22 14:58             ` emacs user
2011-12-22 18:54               ` emacs user
2011-12-22 19:15                 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-23  4:41                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-17 10:04                     ` emacs user
2012-01-17 10:58                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-17 13:14                         ` emacs user
2012-01-18  1:30                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-22 23:09                 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-23  0:39               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-23 10:44                 ` emacs user
2012-01-05  6:13                   ` emacs user
2012-01-05 22:37                     ` Jan Djärv
2012-01-06  9:58                       ` emacs user
2012-01-06 11:10                         ` Carsten Mattner

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