From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12911: 24.3.50; let users decide where (& perhaps whether) `emacs_backtrace.txt' files are written Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:15:02 -0500 Message-ID: References: <83wqxk3d1z.fsf@gnu.org> <83y5hyxnb1.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqxhy4ha.fsf@gnu.org> <83fw45xxzk.fsf@gnu.org> <83ehjpxwqd.fsf@gnu.org> <838v9xxss8.fsf@gnu.org> <83zk2dvsba.fsf@gnu.org> <50AB0EDE.40109@dancol.org> <83r4now6jk.fsf@gnu.org> <83a9ucw278.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353442563 23643 80.91.229.3 (20 Nov 2012 20:16:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:16:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12911@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 20 21:16:13 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TauEq-0007hc-Gd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:16:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42370 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TauEg-00070i-5P for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:15:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53378) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TauEd-00070b-KC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:15:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TauEZ-0006Yj-3g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:15:55 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47101) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TauEY-0006Yf-Sb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:15:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TauFh-0003Bi-GZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:17:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:17:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12911 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 12911-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12911.135344257912202 (code B ref 12911); Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:17:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12911) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Nov 2012 20:16:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57352 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TauF0-0003Al-UV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:16:19 -0500 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:40167) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TauEy-0003Ac-1q for 12911@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:16:17 -0500 Original-Received: from faina.iro.umontreal.ca (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qAKKF2FQ025377; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:15:02 -0500 Original-Received: by faina.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 43DACB4278; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 15:15:02 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83a9ucw278.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:37:15 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4408=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4408> : streams <862350> : uri <1272990> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:67243 Archived-At: >> > Accessing environment variables is another problematic place. We are >> > crashing, so the heap or the whole arena can be trashed. Who can be >> > sure the environment variables will not point to garbled places? >> Just to put things in perspective: this backtrace "feature" was put in >> to replace/supplement the previous assertion failure output (because >> with asserts now being inside inlinable functions, the line&file info >> we get is not the one we want any more). So the environment is usually >> still pretty sane, because assertions are usually caught fairly early. > If the backtrace is created due to assertion violation, yes. But it > is also invoked for all the other fatal signals. Yes, but the only case I care about is the assertion violation. The other cases have never generated any useful output in the past anyway and nobody complained abut that. Stefan