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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Kenichi Handa <handa@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: request to revert the chnage of revno 112925
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:59:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv1u7yl0x6.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k3lql3iy.fsf@gnu.org> (Kenichi Handa's message of "Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:54:13 +0900")

> So, the above change does not improve the performance that much.

The change was not done for performance reasons.

> In addition, as iso-2022-jp and iso-2022-7bit have been the
> most correctly detected coding systems in any environments,
> there are many packages that uses them for *.el files (at
> least in Japan).  Now many of them doesn't work.

Then maybe we should use a new coding-system which does falls back on
iso-2022 if some incorrect utf-8 byte sequence is found?

> In some sence, the above change is a regression because it
> disables Emacs' facility to automatically decode ISO 2022
> based 7-bit encodings, and we should notify users about such
> a change in advance, for instance, by showing warnings by
> byte-compiler for non-UTF-8 and no-coding-tag *.el files for
> a while (perhaps while Emacs' version is 24.*).

I knew that the change was "risky".  Admittedly, part of the motivation
was to see how much breakage we'd bump into.

But the core of what I want: make it so that utf-8 Elisp files are
always recognized correctly, even in the absence of a coding: tag, and
regardless of the user's locale.
The way I implemented it broke recognition of iso-2022, but if there;s
some other way that doesn't break it, that's even better.


        Stefan



  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-19 12:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-19 11:54 request to revert the chnage of revno 112925 Kenichi Handa
2013-06-19 12:59 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2013-06-19 15:35   ` Kenichi Handa
2013-06-19 16:11     ` Paul Eggert
2013-06-19 20:49       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-19 21:15         ` Paul Eggert
2013-06-20  2:09           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-21  5:25           ` Achim Gratz
2013-06-21  6:48             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-06-19 16:54     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-22 12:36       ` Kenichi Handa
2013-06-22 12:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-22 12:54           ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-06-22 15:26         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-29  3:50           ` request to revert the change " Kenichi Handa

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