From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Setting the value of `emacs-bzr-version' also from a git checkout Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:56:50 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87a9is6g2a.fsf@igel.home> <87pprokewg.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83iox2rd75.fsf@gnu.org> <87bo2uhie3.fsf@wanadoo.es> <871u3qgvk2.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1381777066 7026 80.91.229.3 (14 Oct 2013 18:57:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?windows-1252?Q?=D3scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 14 20:57:48 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VVnKu-0001As-FS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 20:57:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38355 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VVnKu-00089I-6Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 14:57:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52387) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VVnKj-00088b-Hp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 14:57:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VVnKb-0007O9-CV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 14:57:37 -0400 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:34119) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VVnKb-0007Nt-3y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 14:57:29 -0400 Original-Received: from ceviche.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id r9EIvPaH019117; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 14:57:26 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C3C42663DC; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 16:56:50 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <871u3qgvk2.fsf@wanadoo.es> (=?windows-1252?Q?=22=D3scar?= Fuentes"'s message of "Sat, 12 Oct 2013 21:04:29 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4731=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9362 : core <4731> : inlines <142> : streams <1055822> : uri <1565255> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.20 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:164212 Archived-At: [ This whole discussion is largely pointless, since it comes from a misunderstanding, but anyway, here we are. ] > That's because they don't understand the implications. The usefulness of > including version info on bug reports (something that IIRC is done > automatically, so there is no need to show the info on screenshots, etc) > is to pinpoint the sources used for the build. It is self-defeating to > use ambiguous info just because it seems more human-friendly, when the > non-ambiguous info makes no difference on terms of report write effort > nor on report read effort (it is easy to write a command that reads the > revid at point and shows the corresponding commit message and/or diff.) I never use that revid info, whereas I do occasionally use the revno, because I can immediately tell (without having to remember which bzr command to run) if it's "recent enough". Before that, I used the timestamp which (in my experience) works just as well anyway, so all this "include revision info" business is of no real importance for me. Stefan