From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: icomplete-mode vs. iswitchb Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 13:20:29 -0500 Message-ID: References: <871u1iuuel.fsf@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1386872457 17892 80.91.229.3 (12 Dec 2013 18:20:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 18:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stephen Eglen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 12 19:21:01 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VrAsb-0007SP-VC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 19:20:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38069 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VrAsb-0000D4-FL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 13:20:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53598) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VrAsR-0000CY-Av for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 13:20:54 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VrAsI-0000h6-5z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 13:20:47 -0500 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:46744) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VrAsH-0000gl-Rk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 13:20:38 -0500 Original-Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id rBCIKU86029524; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 13:20:31 -0500 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id CD01FAE350; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 13:20:29 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <871u1iuuel.fsf@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Thu, 12 Dec 2013 14:26:58 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4790=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9362 : core <4790> : inlines <316> : streams <1089722> : uri <1622036> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 132.204.246.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166345 Archived-At: >> Well, I don't recall many complaints about ido vs iswitchb -- most >> people were happy to use one or the other. Probably more people use >> ido, as it offers more features. That's still not very relevant: those who like ido can (and should) use ido. >> But I have just tested this: >> (setq ido-mode 'buffer) >> (ido-mode 1) Seems to do more than iswitchb: it also change C-x C-f. > did, the users would end up with less functionality than if they use > icomplete-mode, which provides completion suggestions in all cases where > Emacs knows how to complete - not only buffers, but files, functions, > variables, etc. Actually, that's a point *against* icomplete-mode, when taken as a replacement for iswitchb. I think I'm beginning to understand the emotional response, tho: people seem to think that putting icomplete-mode in the obsolete data is a kind of *recommendation*, which is not the intention. I'll just add ido-mode in there as well, which I hope will stop the religious hysteria. Stefan