From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: indirect-buffers and text-properties Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:03:04 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87fvo5r6uk.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <8761p1r214.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1391094221 1820 80.91.229.3 (30 Jan 2014 15:03:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 15:03:41 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 30 16:03:48 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W8t9e-0004Jp-VZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:03:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50751 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W8t9e-00044y-KA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:03:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44031) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W8t9K-00041W-9m for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:03:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W8t9B-0002Ef-JC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:03:26 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:42174) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W8t9B-0002E5-CS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 10:03:17 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W8t99-00043r-IF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:03:15 +0100 Original-Received: from 206-248-158-187.dsl.teksavvy.com ([206.248.158.187]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:03:15 +0100 Original-Received: from monnier by 206-248-158-187.dsl.teksavvy.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:03:15 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 206-248-158-187.dsl.teksavvy.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:JGZVin5YMz+2po+orUyBTzwv/j4= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:95805 Archived-At: > Really? I've started using them because they enable me to have the point > in two places at once; for example, in the pre-amble and the body of a [...] > visible window). Indirect buffers seem to be a nice solution for this. That would be using a definition of "nice" very different from the one I'm familiar with ;-) BTW, you might like to M-x report-emacs-bug and request exactly this feature for "preserving window-specific point". It can probably be implemented in a *much* lighter way than by using indirect-buffers. > Even as it stands, having the same content in two different modes seems > very powerful; It is very powerful, but as you've seen indirect-buffers only work to some extent for that purpose and the problems you bump into are largely unsolvable. So it's not going in the right direction. I think they really fit perfectly the definition of attractive-nuisance. Stefan