From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19564: 24.4; eieio backward compatibility Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 13:05:55 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87oaq5sq0h.fsf@gmail.com> <87r3v01qwg.fsf@gmail.com> <87oaq2x3gb.fsf@gmail.com> <87mw5my2qd.fsf@gmail.com> <87fvbdvqtx.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1421258842 3060 80.91.229.3 (14 Jan 2015 18:07:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:07:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19564@debbugs.gnu.org To: Thierry Volpiatto Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 14 19:07:15 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YBSLa-0005aa-Ep for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 19:07:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47564 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBSLZ-0001U3-QV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 13:07:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45825) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBSLV-0001Tt-IL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 13:07:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBSLP-0001Dz-9C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 13:07:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:48199) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YBSLP-0001Dv-5V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 13:07:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YBSLO-0003Ys-R1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 13:07:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19564 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19564-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19564.142125876313599 (code B ref 19564); Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:07:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19564) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jan 2015 18:06:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57056 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YBSKQ-0003XA-86 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 13:06:02 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:8189) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YBSKO-0003Wm-Iu for 19564@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 13:06:00 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjsPAOwQflS4rwoL/2dsb2JhbABbgweDYIVaxR0EAgKBJBcBAQEBAQF8hAMBAQMBViMFCws0EhQYDSSISgnWWQEBAQEGAQEBAR6QbweESAWLAaQugXiEGSGCdwEBAQ X-IPAS-Result: AjsPAOwQflS4rwoL/2dsb2JhbABbgweDYIVaxR0EAgKBJBcBAQEBAQF8hAMBAQMBViMFCws0EhQYDSSISgnWWQEBAQEGAQEBAR6QbweESAWLAaQugXiEGSGCdwEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,502,1413259200"; d="scan'208";a="107811331" Original-Received: from 184-175-10-11.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([184.175.10.11]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 14 Jan 2015 13:05:55 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 05CD0660FB; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 13:05:55 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87fvbdvqtx.fsf@gmail.com> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Wed, 14 Jan 2015 07:06:34 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:98350 Archived-At: >>> The confusion comes that slot-value as documented should use the quoted >>> slot (i.e 'slot) and oref should use the keyword slot (i.e :slot). >> >> I don't think so: >> >> (defmacro oref (obj slot) >> `(eieio-oref ,obj (quote ,slot))) >> (defalias 'slot-value 'eieio-oref) >> >> They both accept the slot name (except that one needs it quoted and the >> other doesn't) and the initarg name (as an alternative name for the >> slot). > Yes right, I have ckecked too, thanks. To get back to the original issue: is the conclusion that you indeed just don't need to the functionality of class-slot-initarg, or would that functionality be handy but you managed to work around it? Stefan